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ii V I Madness

Post by Scrybe » April 4th, 2008, 3:30 pm

Am I the only one who read that and felt like a bit of an idiot? The start, I was all, "yup, yup, know the progresion, know the numerals, easy going..." then the licks were listed and it swiftly changed to "uh oh, I'm pretty lost...."

I'll post a more 'reasonable' comment on what exactly is confusing me, once I can figure it out a little better, but for now.......


What the heck is "enclosure chromaticism"?!? :shock: :? :shock: (Aside from being something currently hovering roughly 8 inches above my head, that is).
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by Misanthrope » April 5th, 2008, 5:08 am

Clunky name for it if you ask me - it needs a slang-style name rather than a technical-style name, like 'lazy bends' aren't called 'pitch-adjustment-synchopated bends'. Anyhooo, if you were aiming for an A note, with enclosure chromatism you'd first hit Bb, then Ab, then A. Enclosing the A note with chromatic notes, as it were.

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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by greybeard » April 5th, 2008, 7:15 am

As I understood it, the note would be preceded by a note one chromatic step lower than it and followed by a note which is diatonically one step higher.
Not something that I'm particularly familiar with though.
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by Misanthrope » April 5th, 2008, 8:06 am

Quite possibly GB :wink:

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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by Scrybe » April 5th, 2008, 11:18 am

Isn't that just bebop? :lol: :lol:

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ii v i madness

Post by almann1979 » May 8th, 2010, 1:04 am

Hello - im searching for this lesson, but cant seem to find it. i googled "ii v i" and the results had a link to a GN newsletter from a while back which stated this lesson was on the site, but when i search the lessons or use the GN search box, all i get are references to the lesson, not the lesson itself.

I understand the lesson was a while ago, has it been removed now or am i just looking in the wrong places?

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Re: ii v i madness

Post by greybeard » May 8th, 2010, 1:53 am

Do you mean this one?

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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by Nuno » May 8th, 2010, 2:39 am

Al, I remember several lessons on jazz by Hans Fahling (http://www.guitarnoise.com/author/hansfahling/) and this is the first one: http://www.guitarnoise.com/lessons/jazz-comping-1/ That progression is cited in several ones. I don't remember a specific lesson on that progression but I remember some lost lessons during the last software upgrade (I think Paul recovered all of them).

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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by slejhamer » May 8th, 2010, 4:15 am

Googling enclosure chromaticism brings up the article "ii V I Mayhem" here:
http://www.jamplay.com/articles/ii-v-i-mayhem.html
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by almann1979 » May 8th, 2010, 5:36 am

thanks guys :D Greybeard, that link doesnt take me to a lesson though, it just brings me back to this thread?
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by Musenfreund » May 8th, 2010, 7:46 am

almann1979 wrote:thanks guys :D Greybeard, that link doesnt take me to a lesson though, it just brings me back to this thread?

That's because I moved your thread and the response into the pre-existing thread on that lesson. Greybeard's link took you to the preexisting thread.

In this forum, all questions and responses about a lesson are kept in one thread.

The closest I can find to the lesson is in March 2008 newsletter:

http://www.guitarnoise.com/newsletter/vol-3-63/

I wonder if the lesson itself has been deleted?
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by almann1979 » May 8th, 2010, 8:19 am

thats what i wondered, it seems easy enough to find references to the lesson called "ii v i madness", but not the lesson itself.
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by dhodge » May 8th, 2010, 9:32 am

When Paul did the last update (and my brain is so addled I can't even remember when that was), this may have been one of the lessons that got moved or removed. Many of the lessons we get from other contributors are also up on their own websites, so it may be possible to find it that way.

If I remember correctly, Nick Kellie has been teaching for www.guitartricks.com, so you may find some of his lessons, maybe even this one, there.

Hope this helps.

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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by almann1979 » May 9th, 2010, 4:21 am

thanks David. ill check that link out now :D
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Re: ii V I Madness

Post by jason brann » July 13th, 2010, 1:05 pm

Scrybe wrote:Isn't that just bebop? :lol: :lol:

thanks guys :D
bebop's based off the bebop scale. this is just a walk up or walk down.

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