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It's too late

Post by Ramblex157 » April 21st, 2004, 8:50 am

Hi,
    Just one of thing really, I'm not quite sure which fingers to use when I play Cmaj7 or Fmaj7 or even Gmaj7 so that I can get an easy changeover.

Thanks  ;)
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Re: It's too latemo

Post by Musenfreund » April 21st, 2004, 9:59 am



Try this for now
Play a C in the open position.  Now lift your index finger.  That's a C maj7  (don't strum the sixth string).

Play a C in the open position.  Now pick up your middle and ring fingers and move them up a string while holding the shape, moving from the 5th and 4th strings to the 4th and 3rd.  That's a an Fmaj7.

See if those work with the song.  They're not the same voicings David shows but I think they'll work for you and are very easy transitions.
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Re: It's too late

Post by Ramblex157 » April 22nd, 2004, 1:09 pm

Thanks, that seems to work.
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Re: It's too late

Post by Musenfreund » April 22nd, 2004, 4:21 pm

8)
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Post by Nwoodgirl » November 19th, 2004, 1:42 am

Could someone please tell me the up/down strumming pattern for the chorus section? It was really helpfull in the first part of the lesson to have it spelled out to get the rhythm properly. Thank you.

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Post by DARLING DAMSEL » August 14th, 2005, 6:46 am

Ah and where does it explain what hammer on and off means? I can finger the piano rif but only each individually ...

And what doesD(P) mean? The "Percussive stroke down" does not really tell me much.

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Post by Musenfreund » August 14th, 2005, 8:46 am

Percussive stroke down -- try muting the strings. Rest the ridge of your palm lightly against the strings by the bridge as you strum (especially if it's an open chord). The chord won't ring out that way and you'll just get a percussive effect.


Hammer-on and pull-off are techniques for legato phrasing. I'm going to give you a link to a site that has some video files for the basic technique:

Cyberfret's hammer-on and pull-off.

After you've looked at those photos and videos, take a look at Nick's lesson:

Hammer on, Pull off, Tap, Repeat.

That should help!
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Post by DARLING DAMSEL » August 14th, 2005, 8:56 am

Thank you!

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Post by missileman » August 17th, 2005, 1:48 pm

I am terrible with percussive beats (I know, I know, I need to practice) but on this particular song the percussive beat seems to serve more purpose than just a percussive sound.
It mutes the previous chord cutting it short.
I have found that if I mute the strings where the percussive beat goes but skip actually playing the percussive beat it sound just perfect to me.

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Re: It's too late

Post by Minotaur » October 20th, 2008, 9:56 am

I know I'm about 3 years late in this thread, but I just read the It's Too Late lesson last night. Even in the recorded version, it sounds like her piano chords are muted, exactly where David has them. I've tried some palm muting a couple of times, and it was enough to tell me that boy do I need practice! I can't wait to be able to do it, because I am hearing it now in a lot of songs I've listened to for years (does that mean I'm becoming a musician? :lol: ). I guess the trick is to go very slowly and find just the right touch with the heel of the hand.
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Re: It's too late

Post by dhodge » October 20th, 2008, 11:33 am

One thing I should point out on this lesson - the "piano riff" is an adaptation, meant to help beginners get the feel of being able to switch from chords to riff and back, not to mention get them comfortable with the idea of hammer-ons on the lower (bass) strings.

But the notes on this adaptation are not the same as the ones in the actual recording. If you want to use those instead, here they are:

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E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
B - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
G - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
D - - - 0 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
A - 2 - - - - - - - - - - - 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
It takes a little more practice to get these (as opposed to the notes in the lesson), but with a little concentrated practice, it's not all that hard.

Hope this helps and glad you enjoy the lesson.

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Re: It's too latemo

Post by Coolnama » July 12th, 2009, 4:58 pm

Musenfreund wrote:
Try this for now
Play a C in the open position.  Now lift your index finger.  That's a C maj7  (don't strum the sixth string).

Play a C in the open position.  Now pick up your middle and ring fingers and move them up a string while holding the shape, moving from the 5th and 4th strings to the 4th and 3rd.  That's a an Fmaj7.

See if those work with the song.  They're not the same voicings David shows but I think they'll work for you and are very easy transitions.
I think I'm waaay late but the way he explained Fmaj7 is wrong..

When moving from Cmaj7 to Fmaj 7 you have to put your index finger back on the 2nd string otherwise you won't get the C and then that wouldn't be F at all :D it would be... some other chord, wow now I am curious what chord would it be ?
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Re: It's too late

Post by Hanging Chord » July 14th, 2009, 9:19 am

When moving from Cmaj7 to Fmaj 7 you have to put your index finger back on the 2nd string otherwise you won't get the C and then that wouldn't be F at all :D it would be... some other chord, wow now I am curious what chord would it be ?
It would be cacophony. Fmaj7b5? Whatever it is, I don't want to hear it. :?

However, he did explain the Fmaj7 correctly. You start in the open C, with the index on the 2nd string at the first fret. That finger never moves, so no need to "put it back".

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Re: It's too latemo

Post by Coolnama » July 15th, 2009, 10:13 am

Coolnama wrote:
Musenfreund wrote:
Try this for now
Play a C in the open position.  Now lift your index finger.  That's a C maj7  (don't strum the sixth string).

Play a C in the open position.  Now pick up your middle and ring fingers and move them up a string while holding the shape, moving from the 5th and 4th strings to the 4th and 3rd.  That's a an Fmaj7.

See if those work with the song.  They're not the same voicings David shows but I think they'll work for you and are very easy transitions.
I think I'm waaay late but the way he explained Fmaj7 is wrong..

When moving from Cmaj7 to Fmaj 7 you have to put your index finger back on the 2nd string otherwise you won't get the C and then that wouldn't be F at all :D it would be... some other chord, wow now I am curious what chord would it be ?
See up there it says lift your index finger, but I didn't notice under it it said Play a C in the open position, but I'm going to hunt down that chord to see if it is what u say.

Fmaj 7 b5 is an Fmaj7 with the 5th note flatted right, well I guess thats it O_O
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Re: It's too late

Post by JayBest » July 23rd, 2009, 3:34 am

I agree with Dhodge...
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