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Augmented Diminished Dementia (Discussion)

Posted: April 4th, 2004, 5:36 am
by jstar
First, Dave, I would like to say that I enjoyed your article, especially the voice leading on how to use the augs and dims as transition chords.

Sorry, Dave, but a diminished triad is not a half diminished. It is just a diminished triad no matter how many times you stack up the notes. A "half" diminished is a 7th chord. It is the classical name for m7b5 (jazz term).

So that we're all on the same page a Major 7th would be 1 3 5 7 out of the major scale. A "fully" diminished 7th chord would be 1 b3 b5 bb7 and a "half" diminished would be 1 b3 b5 7. Compare this to the m7 and you'll see why jazzers use their name -- 1 b3 5 b7. Actually, I found that using the jazzer name makes it quicker for me to find the half diminished chord on both piano and guitar, since my hand naturally gravitates toward m7 chords anyway.

Good luck!

Re: AUGMENTED DIMINISHED DEMENTIA

Posted: April 4th, 2004, 6:09 am
by greybeard
and a "half" diminished would be 1 b3 b5 7
Shouldn't that be 1 b3 b5 b7?

Re: AUGMENTED DIMINISHED DEMENTIA

Posted: April 4th, 2004, 6:14 am
by dhodge
Jstar

You're absolutely right and my apologies! Totally figures - I didn't want beginners to get mixed up with the potential confusion in terms and I end up doing more confusion.

I'll try to get the text changed ASAP and, with your permission, of course, I'd like to include your explanation in the next newsletter.

Thanks

Peace


Re: AUGMENTED DIMINISHED DEMENTIA

Posted: April 4th, 2004, 11:46 am
by jstar
First, yes, it should be 1 b3 b5 b7   :-[ for the half diminished/m7b5 chord.  Unfortunately, I hit reset by accident instead of preview just as I had finished writing it originally and retyped it as fast as I could before I forgot what I said, so I inadvertantly wrote this wrong the second time through.  Sorry I missed it in the
proof reading.  :(

Dave, you're sweet.  My words are yours if you want them, though I'm sure you could explain it just as well.
:)