SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

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SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by dhodge » June 22nd, 2008, 7:34 pm

Okay, here's a thread to your suggestions for various SSG writers in accordance with the Week 34 - Part 2 assignment. In case you didn't read it, here it is:

Vic and Ken came up with great ideas last week by making suggestions for each other in regard to musical styles or an artist that the SSG writer might write a song for.

This week I'd like you to post any suggestion along the same lines in this thread right here. Just add your suggestions as you come up with them.

So you might post that Straycat write a Tin Pan Alley style song or that Ken write a hymn. The idea is to give the writers ideas in order to help get them to step outside of their normal realm of songwriting comfort. Do feel free to make (many) multiple suggestions.

If you are a writer who doesn't get a suggestion, don't be shy about asking for input.

Writers, your job is to take these suggestions and to consider them seriously and see if they stir up any ideas. If you want to get started on a song, go for it. The finished song is still going to be a ways down the road, but it doesn't hurt to get a head start!

And I'm going to start things out not by making a suggestion, but for asking for suggestions for myself!

Looking forward to reading your ideas and suggestions.

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by CitiZenNoir » June 22nd, 2008, 7:50 pm

Hi all :D

Well, I just finished watching the Sunday edition of The Crosstown Clash at Wrigley Field....
The Cubbies SWEPT the sox :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
(Yeah, I might be a Southsider.... Been a lifelong Cubs fan though :mrgreen: )
(Plus the Cubs just won 14 home games in a row!.... The most since 1948 or something)

So, I had an idea to do a baseball song.
There seems to be a lot of sports fans about GN, so....
I propose that ANY sportsfans here in the SSG write a song about their favorite sport/team.

All I have is the title for mine so far:
There's a Rainbow Over Wrigley!

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by CitiZenNoir » June 22nd, 2008, 8:09 pm

And for you David (to get you out of your rut)....
Hopefully something with a bit of fun :D

A parody in the form of a Weird Al song!
Something based on an already done famous song.

Like I once re-wrote the lyrics for McCartney's Live and Let Die to contain a parody of the old Original Star Trek episode:
'City on the Edge of Forever'. :P

For those of you who know the episode;
It was called: Edith Keeler Must Die

Good luck, :wink:

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by Vic Lewis VL » June 23rd, 2008, 3:31 am

CitiZenNoir wrote:Like I once re-wrote the lyrics for McCartney's Live and Let Die to contain a parody of the old Original Star Trek episode:
'City on the Edge of Forever'.

For those of you who know the episode;
It was called: Edith Keeler Must Die
Hah - I may not be well up on Bergman, but Star Trek's a different matter! Wasn't that the episode where Bones went back in time through a portal and changed history - Kirk and Spock had to follow and put it right? If I recall correctly, Edith Keeler was played by none other than Joan Collins.

This topic sounds like fun - nothing springs immediately to mind, but I'll have a good think about it. Still waiting for Kath's thrash metal epic from last week - it must be good if she's working so long on it!

Oh and by the way, it was Ken's idea - I just went along for the ride! Like I said in another thread, I'll try anything once apart from Morris Dancing and incest......

:D :D :D

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by straycat. » June 23rd, 2008, 9:54 am

So did I get that right? A song about everyday life or a part of everyday life in a style that is out of one's comfort zone?
Sounds good... I have to consult my muse... I think I last saw her sulking somewhere in a corner of my room.

Tin Pan Alley, huh? Calls for research.

Hmmm... let's see if I can offer suggestions... how about trying an Okkervil River kind of song (for an idea of their style - "For Real" or "Westfall")... maybe that would be interesting for you, Vic? I dunno... Then of course I'd always recommend a look at Bright Eyes, this is truly inspirational stuff (for me at least)... say "A Song to Pass the Time", "Spent on Rainy Days" or "A Line Allows Progress, a Circle Does Not" ...... hmmm... maybe John would like to try that :wink:
And maybe Ken (CitiZenNoir) would like to check out Maximilian Hecker (e.g. "Polyester", "Silly Lily, Funny Bunny") or Anthony and the Johnsons ("For Today I am a Boy", "Hope There's Someone")?
I am really not sure if these songs do anything for you (or if you might even consider them inside your comfort zone..). If you're interested have a listen and see if it takes you anywhere. If you're not, feel completely free to ignore my suggestions :D

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by KR2 » June 23rd, 2008, 10:22 am

I think there's a touch of sado/masochism on this board.
Out-of-your-comfort-zone = Strain the brain til it hurts.
So if you don't mind, I'll sit back and watch the torture.
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Post by straycat. » June 23rd, 2008, 10:36 am

I'll sit back and watch the torture
:lol:
sounds like fun.
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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by Vic Lewis VL » June 23rd, 2008, 10:58 am

kenrogers2 wrote:I think there's a touch of sado/masochism on this board.
Out-of-your-comfort-zone = Strain the brain til it hurts.
So if you don't mind, I'll sit back and watch the torture.
No passengers, please.....maybe you can do the thrash metal epic - that's if Kath doesn't want it.......

*Goes off, mumbling to self, "Who in blue hades are Okervill River?"*..........................

:D :D :D

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by KR2 » June 23rd, 2008, 11:44 am

Vic Lewis VL wrote: No passengers, please.....
OK, just consider me the idolizing audience then.
Ahhhh . . . I can smell the brain cells burning already.

No,

wait,

. . . maybe that's the lighter that I'm waving to and fro.
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Post by Vic Lewis VL » June 23rd, 2008, 1:18 pm

kenrogers2 wrote: . . maybe that's the lighter that I'm waving to and fro.
No, sorry, "Burning Down The House" has been done already!

:D :D :D

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by Celt » June 23rd, 2008, 3:16 pm

First of all Ken stole my idea for a Weird Al type parody.
I even have one in the works done to Deep Purple's Hush
about a woman who nags her man.

And while we are on the subject of Ken's suggestions shouldn't that be
"There's A Rainbow Over Fenway"

Yeah that sounds better. :mrgreen:

OK on with my suggestions so far.

What appears to be missing from David's catalog of originals would be a solid
Springsteen type rocker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rGFfO5fUvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmLt6kcZ72Q

As for Straycat's suggestion that I might try Bright Eyes I would be up to attempting that.
Now here's the catch I would suggest in return she attempt my biggest inspiration
John Prine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noc3YWst ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9Rvdtv ... re=related

I got to admit Vic's idea for Kathy doing Thrash Metal is oddly intriguing.

More Later

John
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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by CitiZenNoir » June 24th, 2008, 4:05 am

Vic Lewis VL wrote:
CitiZenNoir wrote:Like I once re-wrote the lyrics for McCartney's Live and Let Die to contain a parody of the old Original Star Trek episode:
'City on the Edge of Forever'.

For those of you who know the episode;
It was called: Edith Keeler Must Die
Hah - I may not be well up on Bergman, but Star Trek's a different matter! Wasn't that the episode where Bones went back in time through a portal and changed history - Kirk and Spock had to follow and put it right? If I recall correctly, Edith Keeler was played by none other than Joan Collins.

:D :D :D

Vic
That's the very one! :D
Love those old Trek episodes :mrgreen:

I wrote those lyrics quite a while back.... Before I had a pc; so they never ended up in my computer.
I can't seem to find the paper anywhere :evil:

In addition to the actual story IN the script.... there's also a story behind the script dealing with the writer [Harlan Ellison],
who; to this day harbors such anger and resentment about how the Trek episode came out....
I worked both story lines into the parody :D

The only part of my lyrics that I can remember off hand are:
[to the music of 'Live and Let Die']

and if in this ever changing scripted revision
Spock makes you break down and cry....
cause EDITH KEELER MUST DIE!!!!

That might even be wrong.
It's close though :wink:

Of course I wanted to use actual samples of Spock saying to Kirk: "Jim; Edith Keeler, must die"
You know.... in that pause right before those words get sung....?

And [in my head at least], McCartney's music mixes perfectly with Trek songs (the Star Trek 'Fight Song') and Trek sound effects!

Maybe someday I'll get to finishing it :D

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by CitiZenNoir » June 24th, 2008, 5:46 am

Celt wrote:First of all Ken stole my idea for a Weird Al type parody.
I even have one in the works done to Deep Purple's Hush
about a woman who nags her man.

And while we are on the subject of Ken's suggestions shouldn't that be
"There's A Rainbow Over Fenway"

Yeah that sounds better. :mrgreen:

OK on with my suggestions so far.

What appears to be missing from David's catalog of originals would be a solid
Springsteen type rocker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rGFfO5fUvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmLt6kcZ72Q

As for Straycat's suggestion that I might try Bright Eyes I would be up attempting that.
Now here's the catch I would suggestion in return she attempt my biggest inspiration
John Prine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noc3YWst ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9Rvdtv ... re=related

I got to admit Vic's idea for Kathy doing Thrash Metal is oddly intriguing.

More Later

John
Well, How about an anthemic Springsteen parody!....?
Well.... Maybe not.

Anyway - Here's my pick for a great Boss piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3vUKBOJ5sU

I think we all could learn a thing or two from this song.
What a great musical hook!

And his lyrics.... 'if dreams came true, well wouldn't that be nice'....
He has a way of saying - yeah, we're down in the dumps and life isn't fair.... But isn't it great to be alive! :twisted:

I know Kathy would be more than willing to help David out on a Boss type song :wink:

John....
Illinois Boy, John Prine....?
Isn't he a Cubbies fan too???? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by CitiZenNoir » June 24th, 2008, 6:05 am

Anne,

I REALLY dug that stuff by Max Hecker!
That's kinda how my sound is going.... and that's kinda the singing style I'm shooting for.
Thankx for turnin' me on to that! :D
Also, they do a nice cover of 'Creep'.... Love that old Radiohead stuff :wink:

The other guy was a bit too operatic for my liking....
I'll give him a few more listens though.... Might grow on me :)

Ken

ps -
I thought Max's videos were pretty cool too :wink:
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Re: SSG Year 6 - Week 34 - Part 2

Post by Vic Lewis VL » June 24th, 2008, 10:06 am

A Springsteen-influenced rocker's a good choice for David - I always thought "Waiting For Nancy" had a touch of the Boss, lyrically. Another suggestion might be a Roy Orbison type uptempo song, in the style of "Oh Pretty Woman" or "You Got It" or even something Travelling Wilbury-flavoured - the first Wilburys album is amazingly acoustic guitar/ rhythm guitar friendly. Plenty of scope to get that 12-string working!

:D :D :D

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