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Post by TwistedLefty » October 13th, 2006, 5:23 am

a recent post i made asking about the b-bender tele led me to a demo on youtube of a guy who demonstrated it with a video of him creating backing loops using a gibby echoplex digital pro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sijFOoe ... ed&search=

anyhoo, this led me to search for other less expensive options that would record or loop with the dependability to perform live as a "one man band".
the search led me to this site~ http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html
it seems to be a great site with loads of info if you are interested in looping
forgive if this has been posted before.
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Post by Dan T. » October 13th, 2006, 7:16 am

That site looks like it has alot of cool info. I'll have to check it out more when I have some time. I think looping is really cool, and would love to get into it.
Here's a thread I posted a few months back of Phil Keaggy doing a really cool looping song:
http://guitarnoise.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24366

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Post by TwistedLefty » January 11th, 2007, 6:49 am

Update,
my studio progress came to a standstill recently due to a power surge caused by a nearby lightning strike that fried my main rigs Mobo & PS.
i am trying to pick up the pieces and put together a PC that will handle my M-Audio card (assuming it still works)

i am a big fan of artists like Keller Williams, KT Tunstall and others who use loopers to perform and record.
this thread will track my progress and experiances with my newest piece of gear, The DigiTech JamMan.
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Post by TwistedLefty » January 11th, 2007, 9:03 am

streaming JamMan demo in windows media format from http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2280#
also in real, and quicktime
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Post by dogbite » January 12th, 2007, 9:39 am

that JamMan has a slow downer function yes?

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Post by TwistedLefty » January 12th, 2007, 10:17 am

Yepper, and much more

Digitech JamMan Features~

*Record rhythm loops and solo over them on the fly, completely hands-free.

*Save up to 99 independent loops at one time.

*Store over 24 minutes of looping time on the included CompactFlash card, in .wav format. (in up to 99 independent loops)

*Upgrade to a 2GB card to store up to 6.5 hours of audio. (in up to 99 independent loops)

*minimum loop length is 3.5 seconds (not really a feature, but you should know)

*Undo/Redo of single layer of overdubs

*Two stop modes, either stop immediately or play to end

*Built in metronome

*Connect to your computer via USB to save and recall loops

*slow down or speed up loops without changing pitch

*Auto-Record function to start recording when audio begins

*high-impedance instrument input

*CD/Aux input with center cancel mode to remove vocals

*Balanced XLR mic input

*footswitch jack for scrolling through loops and arming the Auto Record feature

also a program for managing files is available with lots of helpful functions at http://www.loopertools.com/?ref=2
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Post by dogbite » January 12th, 2007, 10:42 am

criminey, is that all....

may need to hit the store this weekend.
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Post by TwistedLefty » January 12th, 2007, 11:06 am

dogbite wrote:criminey, is that all....

may need to hit the store this wekend.
yeah, it's a bit overwhelming, but it's been out for a year now and it's relatively bug free.
before you buy you may want to read comments and reviews at http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html
and peruse the posts at the JamMan Yahoo group http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/jamman/

DigiTech has a disscussion group also but i have a hard time navigating their site
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Post by vink » January 12th, 2007, 12:54 pm

Are there software loopers? Since I don't play with others, looping might be nice to use, but it would be nice to try it out with some software before going for a hardware option..
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Post by TwistedLefty » January 12th, 2007, 7:49 pm

from the link above (loopers delight)

http://xmlizer.biz/cgi-bin/LoopersDelig ... areLoopers
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Post by vink » January 13th, 2007, 12:29 pm

TwistedLefty wrote:from the link above (loopers delight)
Thanks for the link, good starting point for some investigation..
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Post by TwistedLefty » February 20th, 2007, 3:00 pm

i use one of these and i think they are every bit as good as a shure
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=270490
the left over money can go towards a bigger memory card :wink:

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Post by Oenyaw » February 21st, 2007, 5:55 am

I use a Line-6 Delay Modeler. Simple. Up to 14 second loop (which you can use the slow down button and do 28 second loops). You can add to or play on top of with one switch. There are pre-loop delay controls that can be used for getting a short loop started, then create a larger loop (I hope that sounded right). I was actually looking for 2 Revox tape decks when I found this. Much cheaper, and easier to use, and less space. Then, I record on computer and from that, anything is possible. Check out the previews on my website.
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Post by TwistedLefty » February 21st, 2007, 7:25 am

Here's a pretty extensive look at the line six delay modeler from loopers-delight.com
http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/li ... 6-DL4.html

looks like it's built like a tank and has quite an array of effects and loop samples built in.
from what i've read so far it seems to be better suited for studio use as it does not look like you can use it in the effects loop of an amp.

what i'm really interested in is on the fly experimenting, and for that you would need a "true" looper of some sort that would allow you to undo or overdub previous loops while performing.

do you do any live performing with this and how do you use it in your set up?
i tried to find some info on your site but the background makes my eyes hurt, :shock: sorry i'm getting old i guess

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