Recording while using a Ring Mod

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ZMdHtr606
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Recording while using a Ring Mod

Post by ZMdHtr606 » March 3rd, 2010, 2:28 pm

I want to record using my gonkulator ring mod pedal, but am not sure how to avoid recording the tone that is produced with the modulator on. Is there a way I can record using this pedal and not have that tone? I understand how the pedal works and that the tone is the basis for that awesome ring mod sound, but i never hear that constant underlying tone on cds that use one!

Any suggestions?

~jd.

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Re: Recording while using a Ring Mod

Post by Blue Jay » March 4th, 2010, 12:42 pm

Hello and welcome! :D

You might get a more informed answer, but I'm not completely sure that I understood the question? :oops:

So, I pasted into a email for my son with the question. He participates in Synth and Techno forums instead of guitar :roll: , has a Ring Mod, uses it and knows the inner workings, and is in College/Electronics.
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Re: Recording while using a Ring Mod

Post by Blue Jay » March 4th, 2010, 3:21 pm

Well, jd, it isn't looking good.

I talked to my son with his Moogerfoogers and he identified your DOD Gonkulator and its characteristic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wu-cs2pVc0

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=DO ... CBEQqwQwAA#

Your carrier oscillator is the basis for your sound in the first place, which should be desirable, but your model has too much carrier bleed-through.

That is what you are hearing as a tone or maybe even a hum, like on that terrible Youtube, and all of the others like it, that condemn the DOD as being the World's worst Ring Mod. :shock:

The only other thing that could be wrong, is if you have put another effect in front of, or ahead of the Ring Mod. If so, put it behind, in-line, or don't use it at all.

The effect before the DOD makes the problem worse, is "ring modded" and bleeds through the carrier oscillator even worse to output. :cry:

Unfortuantely as well, a noise gate would have little effect, and is rather useless or minimally useful for this problem.
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Re: Recording while using a Ring Mod

Post by Moonrider » March 4th, 2010, 6:43 pm

ZMdHtr606 wrote:I want to record using my gonkulator ring mod pedal, but am not sure how to avoid recording the tone that is produced with the modulator on. Is there a way I can record using this pedal and not have that tone? I understand how the pedal works and that the tone is the basis for that awesome ring mod sound, but i never hear that constant underlying tone on cds that use one!

Any suggestions?

~jd.
Don't record with the ring mod on. Do the track without it and apply a plugin effect to the dry track. If you need the effect for timing, monitor through headphones post-effects. You should try to avoid printing effects to the individual tracks, but apply them after the tracks are done. That way you have more room to adjust.
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