guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by Dan T. » November 25th, 2009, 12:16 pm

rparker wrote:
JoeHempel wrote:did anyone grab slot 3 yet for team 2?
I don't think so.
Why doesn't dogbite take that slot?

This bt is kicking my butt! :evil: Not going to be one of my finer moments. :oops: Maybe I'll drown my part in effects, yeah, that's the ticket! :P
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by Gabba Gabba Hey » November 26th, 2009, 11:26 am

Vic Lewis VL wrote:
rparker wrote:I'll grab slot 2 for team 2.

Did we ever determine if the progression was Bb - Db - E - G or Bb - Cb - E - G?
Bb (or A#, if you like!) then Db (or C#) the E then G. Don't mix sharps and flats! Like I said before (although I've sussed it out a bit better now) the following chords work well for rhythm...

Bbm, Dbm7, E, Gm7.

:D :D :D

Vic

To my ears the progression moves in minor thirds (root notes: Bb to Db to E to G), consistent with what Vic says. That conveniently leads back to Bb for the next segment, too.

BUT, I'm not feeling "major" for the E section, which would have a G# instead of G. To me, Em feels more natural in that part, and transitions better to the Gm section that follows.

As I was thinking about that, I got sucked into a never ending cycle of music theory. If we build each chord in the progression with only minor third intervals (the 1, b3, b5 and bb7) we end up with a series of diminished 7th chords (if that's what they're called):

Bbm: Bb - Db - E - G
Dbm: Db - E - G - Bb
Em: E - G - Bb - Db
Gm: G - Bb - Db - E

I don't know if this is at all relevant to the jam, but it had my head spinning for a while! :lol:

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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by JoeHempel » November 27th, 2009, 2:52 am

Dan T. wrote:This bt is kicking my butt! Not going to be one of my finer moments.
Trust me when I say that it'll sound 100x better than mine, I still really don't know what I'm doing, so this theory stuff people are talking about is coming in real handy with my studying.
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by smokindog » November 28th, 2009, 6:36 pm

This is one of those "Thank God for digital editing " moments :lol:
I'm finding it helps to concentrate on one chord section at a time. I'll get lucky and hit a few good notes or a nice lick and then edit out the clunkers :roll:

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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by Dan T. » November 29th, 2009, 5:25 am

I was jamming with the BT yesterday and got a little more comfortable with it. Still hit a few "clunker" notes like smokindog. :oops:
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by rparker » November 29th, 2009, 5:44 am

I messed with it last week a little bit. Mostly trying out different effects. There are some off the wall "patches" that came on my multi-FX unit. I'm not sure if I should go off the wall with one of those or stick to some sort of minimalistic approach to an already busy piece of music. :?
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by Dan T. » November 29th, 2009, 6:49 am

Whatever you feel Roy is fine. Give it your personal touch. 8)
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by almann1979 » November 30th, 2009, 3:40 am

Dogbite - i sent you a more detailed PM about this - but i have to pull out of this jam im afraid.

I dont want to, but school is taking my laptop off me and sending it back for some work under warrenty - all i am being given in return is a desktop in my lab at work - which i cant record on (i dont fancy moving a clunky old desktop to and from school and my house).

The problem is im not sure when i will get my laptop back and so i cant be sure i will meet the deadline, so i pulling out now to leave time for somebody to take my slot.

sorry guys - but im looking forward to hearing what you lot come up with.
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by dogbite » November 30th, 2009, 4:40 am

hey everybody.
I just want to bring up the possibility of canceling this jam.
I am not opposed to a winter jam, but this track has me at odds.
thoughts?
yea...
nay...

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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by JoeHempel » November 30th, 2009, 4:54 am

I'm game.....I'm having a really hard time with this one.
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by rparker » November 30th, 2009, 5:54 am

Doesn't bother me too much. Anything I come up with that does sound decent with his is really not guitar-like.
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by dogbite » November 30th, 2009, 6:07 am

I should replace the jam track with something better.

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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by Gabba Gabba Hey » November 30th, 2009, 8:17 am

Your call, dogbite, but if there's enough interest for one group, keep me in.

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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by Dan T. » November 30th, 2009, 9:14 am

I vote to either get a new bt, or cancel the jam. This bt is kicking my butt!
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Re: guitarnoise Winter Solstice Jam

Post by rparker » November 30th, 2009, 10:34 am

I'll do either, but prefer new bt. I'd rather not see the jam get cancelled.
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