guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by dogbite » December 22nd, 2009, 9:38 am

Alien wrote:Yikes! Mine got spliced in 2 beats early. The turnaround is an especially horrific listen.
sorry. I will go back in and make the corrections.

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by rparker » December 22nd, 2009, 9:58 am

Man, I just fell asleep listening to B-team's efforts. Need more coffee. What a nice laid back, to cool for school vibe all of Team 2 had.

Team 1 rocked the joint down. Lots of great playing. Not overly fast, but indeed much more up-beat. I can play some fast licks, but not very many. I ended up with the less is more just because I more easily blended with the song than I did trying more upbeat versions. You guys made it work really well, though. Congrats, and job well done!

Vic, I don't know what you're cribbin' about. Yours sounded fine to me. I enjoyed it a lot. 8)

And to my teammies, thanks for having me. I hope my part didn't let the whole thing slide in to a lower grade product. :lol: I enjoyed everyone's take on this. What a cool vibe everyone had. 8)
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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by etm » December 22nd, 2009, 10:41 am

Vic, just jam and jam.. nothing bad on your playing.. sounds good to me..

maybe you are just thinking of additional licks supposedly.. but for me your playing was ok..

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by dogbite » December 22nd, 2009, 1:05 pm

team one....sounds like a bunch of blues players. everyone's take was good, I think. Vic is way too hard on himself. etm was amazing. an acoustic and a laptop recorded somewhere in the middle east. Celt and DanT; way to drive the beat. dogbite, that's me, plays it slow and clean. that's what I have been into lately. I can't seem to get my overdrive tone through a digital interface. not like what I get from my amp and tubecreamer pedal. so when I record my guitar I run straight in and use an amp modeler (Johnson J Station...thank you Gerry).

team 2.....Alien, my apologies. I mis laid your track a few beats early. I can plainly hear it now. the fix will happen tonight.
Kalle has some experience playing solos; I can tell. Alien's first showing is really nice. I like the way you bend those notes. the newbs, rparker and JoeHempel , did a fine job. you didn't rush things and never got stuck on a two note lick. Boxboy plays a laid back emotive 12 bar solo.

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by Kalle_in_Sweden » December 23rd, 2009, 5:02 am

A good round of applause for both teams.
This was fun, as always with GN jams.
Nothing is more deveoping for your guitar skills than recording and listening.
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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by dogbite » December 23rd, 2009, 10:20 am

I checked the ratings and Blue Winter Team 2 is charting at number 12. way to go boys.
Team 1 is currently in the 22.

I have corrected Alien's timing in team 2's mix. I am waiting for his approval. then I will post.

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by boxboy » December 23rd, 2009, 10:41 am

That was a lot of fun. Thanks for hosting, db. It was a great BT for a beginner lead player like me. Relatively simple and the slots were 'just right' length wise.
I really enjoyed everyone's take on things. Looking forward to hearing Alien's in sync.
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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by Alien » December 23rd, 2009, 10:02 pm

For future reference, I think the trick is to start your solo exactly on the downbeat of 1. Otherwise it's too confusing for the guy stitching it together.

I started the solo on the upbeat of 2, pushed and pulled the beat a lot because the tempo is so slow, and then extended the solo into the next verse. Those are probably 3 DON'Ts. I submitted the backing track on the left channel and the solo on the right so I just figured teh DAW software could line it up exactly but apparently that's not the case.

Anyway we spent a lot more time going back and forth than I spent recording it. Too much hassle for a 45 second recording.

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by etm » December 24th, 2009, 1:23 am

Alien wrote:For future reference, I think the trick is to start your solo exactly on the downbeat of 1. Otherwise it's too confusing for the guy stitching it together.

I started the solo on the upbeat of 2, pushed and pulled the beat a lot because the tempo is so slow, and then extended the solo into the next verse. Those are probably 3 DON'Ts. I submitted the backing track on the left channel and the solo on the right so I just figured teh DAW software could line it up exactly but apparently that's not the case.

Anyway we spent a lot more time going back and forth than I spent recording it. Too much hassle for a 45 second recording.
Its ok to start on any count of the downbeat... its a matter of adjusting on the track...
you may send the track with reference, 2 tracks

1 with backing track on your take
1 w/o backing track.. solo only..

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by Kalle_in_Sweden » December 24th, 2009, 3:19 am

The easiest way to get syncronized tracks is to follow the instructions hear.
http://forums.guitarnoise.com/viewtopic ... 33&t=18870
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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by dogbite » December 24th, 2009, 4:48 am

the easiest way for me to correctly line up tracks is to start the record button at the very beginning of the jam track.
then record you individual bit when the time slot assigned comes up. then the host gets a track that can be imported and it lines up perfectly. for example, let's say I am slotted for the third part. I start the jam, hitting record, my guitarvolume is off, when my time slot nears up goes the volume, when the timed target is hit I play. after my part I hit stop record.
the track is sent and lines up great.
the two track send method works to a point. but the whole track idea works for me best.

I really try hard, when hosting, to get the player's track and idea as perfect as possible.

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by Dan T. » December 24th, 2009, 5:32 am

Kalle_in_Sweden wrote:The easiest way to get syncronized tracks is to follow the instructions hear.
http://forums.guitarnoise.com/viewtopic ... 33&t=18870
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I agree, to a point. When I'm hosting a jam, I really don't need the low-fi version of each player's part, I just need the "click tracks" or "sync beats" at the beginning of the backing track left on to everyone's parts so that I can line it up perfectly when editing. The easiest way to do this is; when you are finished recording your part along with the backing track, high-lite the 1st couple sync beats at the very beginning of the bt, and then choose "trim" from your recording software. This will trim out all of the bt except those sync beats, and your part will still be there as well. Then you save as mp3 & send to the host. The host can then visually match up those sync beats from your part with the same sync beats from the bt when editing, and your part slides in perfectly. Easy as pie. :D
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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by dogbite » December 24th, 2009, 9:33 am

here is the corrected BlueWinter team 2 jam.
I nudged Alien's track back a bit as requested.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_mu ... dID=644552

there are two kinds of playing ( generally speaking). on the beat and after the beat (or late playing).
I am of the late group. I really like playing after the beat.
it was difficulty aligning Alien's track because he too is a behind the beat player here.
there is a subtle nuance of lateness that is very individual.
what sounds right for one player may not sound right for another.
it's Feeling that I am talking about.

so I hope I got close (enough) for Alien. Team 2 was charting at number 9 today.
however, because I updated the track they will lose today's standings.
to be sure they will chart higher again. they all gave us such a nice jam.


merry christmas everybody.

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by rparker » December 24th, 2009, 10:44 am

Hey dogbite, Merry Christmas back at ya! Thanks for doing all of this. I had fun and learned a little bit along the way too. I look forward to doing more on down the road. :D
Roy

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Re: guitarnoise Blue Winter Jam

Post by Dan T. » December 28th, 2009, 7:06 pm

Hey team 2, great job! 8)
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