Question about voice range

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Question about voice range

Post by Istoris » February 23rd, 2012, 11:19 am

Ok, My range is F2-E4 ,on F4 i break to falsseto. I sing only for a year now after hiting puberty,so i got a question,do i have a chance to become a tenor ? Because at the moment im like Bass-Baritone. At school,music teacher say's that i should sing opera,because my voice is realy strong,i got good vibrato,but the thing is i hate opera,i love pop music,but the problem is that pop music is for mostly tenors or high baritones ,so do i have any chance to become a tenor and hit those high notes. Im little bit confused,because some people says,that its possible to become a tenor from a baritone or a bass,but some people say,that if you are a baritone,you always be a baritone,so tell me the truth :(

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Re: Question about voice range

Post by deeaa » February 23rd, 2012, 8:39 pm

I was a bass to start with, I took some singing lessons back in the 80's and was told I could be a really good bass singer, but now can sing at least an octave higher since I've sung pretty high, or as high as I could for like 20 years. Only with that my lowest bass has significantly suffered and the voice overall has gotten a little 'drive' or distortion to it that I can't shake. In fact the very lowest (if I go to my fourth octave downwards) is quite cookie monster already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swtJLBOI ... ature=plcp

Check out the video - when I started out the highest octave here was totally out of my range, but these days most of my singing is in that range. But you can also clearly hear how the sound has changed to a more 'metal' driven sound.

That and other things make it apparent to me it is a technique thing, over the years I have developed this way of singing that sort of bypasses my natural range, using a sort of similar technique as in falsetto, but is not (I can still also sing in falsetto).

Back in 1989 this was the highest I got, which was quite low, used falsetto 'yelps' much: http://deeaa.pp.fi/Shout.mp3
And in recent years my singing is constantly much higher like on this: http://deeaa.pp.fi/spookbox/2012/CD/09_ ... uthink.mp3

So...yeah you CAN get a lot higher in time I'm sure, but it will completely change your singing voice and likely all but destroy the timbre/sound you have at the moment. Also the speaking voice is easily an octave higher these days.
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Re: Question about voice range

Post by Istoris » February 24th, 2012, 9:03 am

Thank you for the reply, i bet it took alot of time to train the voice to hit those high notes,but can you reach them without screaming or using falsseto ?

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Re: Question about voice range

Post by deeaa » February 24th, 2012, 12:26 pm

Yeah, quite easily; easier than loud actually, and not falsetto, that's still another thing. It just sounds way softer when I sing it that way, almost feminine, which I don't necessarily like. But yeah, I can sing for instance Aimee Mann and other female voices quite OK without screaming, but then it's quite different sounding & the volume is quite low...not something I'd like to or could use on a gig at least...when I do it with any volume, it starts to sound like screaming...I bet the guy from Queensryche has the same kind of technique, I get often compared to his singing when I do the high stuff.

If you want to preserve the voice you have now, don't go for trying to force it higher. But, I feel pretty much all the high 'rock' voices, be it Chris Cornell or Brian Johnson or whatever...they all kinda do it the 'wrong' way somehow, create the voice 'unnaturally' like I do too.

The funny thing is, if you do it right, it doesn't hurt or strain at all...I can be real loud and high for hours on end no problem, but it does change your fundamental tone, I believe irreversibly.

FWIW, it's also got a LOT to do with proper mic techinique; live I always use an SM57 and really scream right into it, sometimes nigh swallowing the mic, plus always use a nice tube preamp/compressor too for maximum impact in high register.
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Re: Question about voice range

Post by Istoris » February 24th, 2012, 1:38 pm

Well im not a "rock" style fan :S My fav. artists are probably Daniel Powter,James Blunt,Bruno Mars,i dont understand why tenors rule the music industry these days.... but well thanks for you reply's because i was planing to quit singing,since i want to sing only pop music and i dont want to make the song in lower key.
Just look at this guy,he made a big extension to hes voice :roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnqIXcgmpA&noredirect=1

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Re: Question about voice range

Post by tristanmagic » October 13th, 2013, 8:53 am

Don't give up on trying to sing tenor. I used to be and am still in some ways a baritone like you but i managed to expand my range to near B4 without breaking into pure head voice. I can sing some James Blunt but the only reason i can do this is because i keep practising songs higher than my range. You can try practice with scales or high note songs but I'm sure the only way for you to be able to sing tenor is to not give up and keep practicing :)

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Re: Question about voice range

Post by sunoy14 » June 1st, 2014, 2:03 pm

I never had singing lessons but I liked singing during school days. Later on, I tried making bassier voice for a very long time. Maybe there were other factors but in my experience, I destroyed my voice. Maybe I should have just taken up lessons from a teacher.
By the way, can you guys recommend some good website that provide online singing lessons? Thanks.

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