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Re: Time to let the cat out of the bag...

Post by 97reb » August 16th, 2008, 2:32 pm

Great news. I hope you are happy and wish ya'll much success.
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Post by Fretsource » August 16th, 2008, 2:59 pm

Best wishes on your new venture.

PS -Any jobs going? :D

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Post by BluezOldy » August 16th, 2008, 3:45 pm

Good news and I hope all goes well for you. Looking forward to a branch in Katoomba, Australia! :wink:

( PS Bought your 'Music Theory for Guitarists' last week - great stuff.)

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Post by Vic Lewis VL » August 16th, 2008, 3:50 pm

Fretsource wrote:PS -Any jobs going?
If I was Noteboat, I'd snap you up in a heartbeat.....most of the theory I've learned is from NB, the rest of it is from you, and a couple of other people. The pair of you are always ready with a quick reply, and it's always broken down into small pieces so's an idiot like me can understand it. I know I've thanked you both before, but you really are two of the finest assets any guitar forum could wish to have on its memberlist, and as we've got you both, we're doubly blessed!

So thank you both again (and anyone else who's ever replied to mine, and anyone else's, fumbling questions) for your time, your patience, and your just general being-there-for-us-when-we-needed-youfulness!

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Post by Bish » August 16th, 2008, 3:59 pm

Great news, Noteboat.

You're in your own realm there!

Congratulations! :note2:
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Post by Chris C » August 16th, 2008, 4:32 pm

Great news NoteBoat. Congratulations and all the very best with the new venture. :D

There's always a big need for well run places, along the lines that you're following. I know how meticulous and efficent you are - so I'm sure it will be very successful.


By a curious coincidence I spent some time last week checking out local real estate to see if there was anywhere suitable for a similar venture in our area. My good friend and fellow band member currently has a shop with just 3 tiny rooms where lessons take place, but it's all a bit rough and ready. There's also clearly enough demand to support a much bigger enterprise. Ideally it would have been good to find somewhere that would have combined rooms for sound independent teaching, plus a space that could be used for joint student performances/jams/recitals or whatever. There was also the possibility of being able to do other sidelines such as providing space to rent for band practices.

But dreaming up the ideas and putting a workable business together are two different animals... :wink: I don't think that my friend has quite the organisational or financial muscle to pull it all together at this stage. So let us know when you're ready to expand into West Australia. :mrgreen: :note1: :note2: :note1:

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Post by ksac32 » August 16th, 2008, 6:47 pm

sounds great congrats 8)

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Post by NoteBoat » August 16th, 2008, 8:46 pm

Thanks folks!

Fretsource - maybe when we expand :) Right now it's already a scheduling puzzle... more teachers than studios, parents wanting multiple kids to take lessons at the same time, etc. So I'm not planning on adding more staff until after I add more studios, and it'll probably take close to a year before I have the enrollment to afford (and need) that.

Chris, it all starts with an idea... I started looking at locations about two years ago. I didn't think I had the financial muscle either, but somehow circumstances kept lining up in my favor. My advice on going from plan to reality, though, would be to do one thing at a time... get the group classes going before adding space rentals, and so on. Otherwise it's too easy to get sidetracked. If you devote your energy to one possibility at a time, I think it's easier to keep focused.

Nick, I'm thinking Saturday November 1st. I'll know within the next couple of weeks if that's realistic. Plainfield is a suburb of Joliet, but it's best to fly into Chicago; Joliet's Regional airport is just one runway. But if you fly into Chicago Midway, it's a straight shot out I-55 to the school. Anyone else up for a jam?
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Post by rparker » August 16th, 2008, 9:57 pm

Well, you've got the experience, technical expertise and the experience of writing and marketing a book on the subject as well. I bet it's a rousing success.
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Post by Fretsource » August 17th, 2008, 5:52 am

NoteBoat wrote:Fretsource - maybe when we expand :) Right now it's already a scheduling puzzle... more teachers than studios, parents wanting multiple kids to take lessons at the same time, etc. So I'm not planning on adding more staff until after I add more studios, and it'll probably take close to a year before I have the enrollment to afford (and need) that.
I was thinking more along the lines of chief coffee/tea maker. But now armed with Vic's glowing reference, (Thanks Vic) I'll see if Berklee wants me for that post :D

My friend had a similar venture years ago. 10 teachers - 6 studios. He managed to time share quite successfully but ended up teaching less himself in order to keep things running smoothly. I hope you won't fall into that trap.

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Post by Nuno » August 17th, 2008, 6:11 am

Fretsource wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of chief coffee/tea maker. But now armed with Vic's glowing reference, (Thanks Vic) I'll see if Berklee wants me for that post :D
If they need more opinions, you can also tell them mine. It is more or less the same that Vic's one. I like very much the way you always explain every thing. You have a way to do it that the harder things seem very easy.

And Scotland is nearer than the States from here... And always I've wanted to go to Scotland... Perhaps I could go via Newton-le-Willows and have a beer or an isotonic drink with Vic... It seems very interesting! :wink:

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Re: Time to let the cat out of the bag...

Post by Rgalvez » August 17th, 2008, 7:29 am

Really good news..Good luck Tom!!

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Re: Time to let the cat out of the bag...

Post by NoteBoat » August 17th, 2008, 8:19 am

Fretsource, my wife suggested providing free coffee... but I've decided against that, because I've got too much invested in electronics. I figure eventually somebody would set a cup down on top of an amp or digital piano, and I'm not seeing a lot of good things coming out of what might happen next.

I'm already getting prepared to teach a bit less so I can put more time into marketing/outreach/management. But the flip side is I'll be teaching differently - reaching students indirectly by mentoring other teachers. That's a whole new role for me, and one I'm starting to get pretty excited about!
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Re: Time to let the cat out of the bag...

Post by Rgalvez » August 17th, 2008, 11:45 am

NoteBoat wrote:I'm already getting prepared to teach a bit less so I can put more time into marketing/outreach/management. But the flip side is I'll be teaching differently - reaching students indirectly by mentoring other teachers. That's a whole new role for me, and one I'm starting to get pretty excited about!
I'd suggest you should start doing some quick youtube videos in which you and your staff do some quick lessons, or you can show your studios, etc.... Jimmy Bruno has made a lucrative online jazz academy mostly by showing youtube videos.

just my two cents

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Re: Time to let the cat out of the bag...

Post by Chris C » August 17th, 2008, 2:48 pm

Fretsource wrote: My friend had a similar venture years ago. 10 teachers - 6 studios. He managed to time share quite successfully but ended up teaching less himself in order to keep things running smoothly.
Getting the times balanced does seem to be quite a big issue.

Around here, the biggest market for lessons seems to be kids, and that usually means they all want the lessons at the same time - after school. Adult beginners also often want a lesson after work, or on a Saturday. So there's a lot of empty rooms during 'normal' working hours, and then a big crush of students trying to grab peak time slots. Offering cheaper 'off peak' rates is one possibility, to try and lure in a few retirees or people who can take time off school or work, but juggling the needs of teachers and students can be quite a business.

What hours will you be running NoteBoat? Can you keep the rooms working during the mornings or middle of the day, or will it be mostly late afternoon and evening?

Chris

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