- Alan Green
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You are not alone.
A metronome is always useful but if you're struggling to play the chords and sing then your head is going to explode if you try to strum, sing and listen to a metronome at the same time.
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C'mon...dude...have fun with it. That's all your motivation is missing.
There's nothing as frustrating as working hard on something while you don't know if it will bring results, or even worse: do the exact opposite of what you want to achieve. Enjoying the road is imperative if you want to keep on playing, but I don't see anything wrong with asking the way!
Cat wrote:C'mon...dude...have fun with it. That's all your motivation is missing.
I am having fun but I like to have the best fun I can manage if that makes any sense ... kind of like if you want to do something you might as well do it well?
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Sansmerci wrote:...I like to have the best fun I can manage if that makes any sense ... kind of like if you want to do something you might as well do it well?
Makes perfect sense. I find the fun factor goes way up when things start going "right."
And welcome to the forums!
often, I find posts on this forum that ask about strumming patterns for certain songs. I see short hand U D U D/U D U for example.
I must now feel blessed or lucky. when I began learning to play guitar my best friend was playing drums. (he was really good too).
we played together all the time. I guess I picked up rhythm and now have none of the problems that some do. I never have to think much of how to play the chords when learning a new song. I listen to the song, listen for the beats, and right off, I got the rhythm.
since most haven't a drummer maybe a metronome would be cool. I often think of having one.
it is easy to download drumtracks for certain songs these days. that's my recommendation.
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My own way of tackling a song I want to sing and play is simple....I learn the guitar part I'm playing till it's second nature and I can almost do it in my sleep - or at least on autopilot! - then start singing along. It might take me a while, a fair bit of practice, and a whole lot of frustration - but I'll get there eventually, because I'm (a) motivated - I wouldn't be playing the song if I didn't like it and (b) I'm too stubborn to admit failure....I've come so far the last few years, I'm not going to be beaten by a song I love, and (c) did I mention I'm stubborn? Single-minded is more like it...once I've decided to learn a new song, I'll concentrate on that almost exclusively till I've got it down to my satisfaction. Stubborn, single-minded, tunnel vision, totally focussed....that's how I am when I'm learning a new song.
Works for me, anyway - others may have different methods of learning a song.
Oh and some songs are just impossible to play and sing anyway....Sweet Jane springs immediately to mind. Unless, of course, you're Lou Reed. I'm still struggling with that one, been trying to get the riff and vocals in sync for about 5 years now. Pfft. Gave it up as a bad job....I'm NOT Lou Reed!
Vic Lewis VL wrote: Take a listen to, say, some Cream....studio versions of songs feature some amazing bass lines by Jack Bruce, and some great vocals.....but listen to some of the same songs live, and you'll notice the bass lines are very much simpler....and the vocals aren't as strong. If such a high-class musician (and I'd rate him in the all-time top 5 (rock) bass players) can't reproduce live what he does in the studio, what hope is there for us mere mortals?
Talk about coincidences. My teacher just gave me a piece to play/learn whatever by Cream - 'Sunshine of Your Love' I think the title is. I need to go find it from somewhere to listen to as I'm not familiar with it at all. But then 1967 (or whenever it was released) is a good while before I was even born. Right now I keep looking at the paper with it printed on and feeling mildly intimidated.
I really advise that the best way to improve your rythmn and timing, is to play along with a cd or mp3.
Yes a metronome is an alternative but boring! Keep it fun by choosing a song you like and play along with it. Also, you could download some backing tracks for free online and play along. If you have a reference point to keep up with, it should improve your rythmn and help you to keep time better.
Choose a song that you can play easily and focus on the tempo rather than worrying about your chord changes etc.
I play and sing at the same time pretty much on autopilot but I still get caught out on some tricky songs. Just takes practise.