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(@dburn2221)
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Hey all, im new to this forum and am about to pick up this guitar here for 150. Just wondering if its worth it or not or if anyone can tell me exactly what model guitar this is. Thanks.

The reason i am having trouble is because i thought squier was an off brand made my fender, but the person i am buying this from says it is a fender stratocaster. Someone help!


   
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(@noteboat)
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Squier is Fender's budget brand.

Fender strats don't say Squier on them - the pic is a Squier. Looks like a Standard to my eyes - they go new for around $200

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(@kingpatzer)
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New $200 price usually includes a budget amp.

$150 is probably about right if it's in good shape and doesn't need a setup.

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(@off-he-goes)
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It's a decent guitar, despite what alot of people might say. If it stays in tune, and you adjust the pickups a bit, it certainly could be worth it.

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(@dburn2221)
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alright guys, thanks for the help. I think im gonna pass on this one, Wasnt quite what i thought it was.


   
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(@biker_jim_uk)
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Is it not an old one though?
All the ones I have seen have the Squier as the prominent logo, check the back plate for 'made in...' If it's Japan buy it now!


   
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(@off-he-goes)
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If you passed on this one thats a decent move. I'd personally have gotten a new one, for the price. Any ideas what kind of guitar you are looking for?

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(@slejhamer)
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WAIT! Dont' turn it down yet!

That looks very much like a 1st-issue Squier "JV" (Japan Vintage.) They were Fender's first attempt at producing a lower-cost (but NOT lower quality) guitar in Japan to head off the competition from Tokai and other clone makers.

If it was made in 1982 and there is a valid serial number, then that may prove to be a steal for US$150. An average condition 1982 JV sold on ebay for $600 last month. One with the later Squier spaghetti logo sold for $325. Just so you know ...

I highly recommend you post this on the Fender forum and you'll get a much better idea as to the "value". They will also help you identify the serial number and other markings. Don't tell them your friend's price though. ;)
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(@greybeard)
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From the serial number, it's a 1990's Mexi Strat - it even says "Made in Mexico" on the headstock

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(@off-he-goes)
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From the serial number, it's a 1990's Mexi Strat - it even says "Made in Mexico" on the headstock

An MIM Squier?

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(@slejhamer)
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From the serial number, it's a 1990's Mexi Strat - it even says "Made in Mexico" on the headstock

You can read that? Jeez, I may need new glasses ... :oops:

But yes, now that I can make out the "MN" at the beginning of the serial #, it does appear to be Mexican-made.

Okay, never mind. :)

Though I did find this about the brief run of MIM Squiers that have the "big F, small S" logos:
seems to be the same bodies and necks as the MIA of that year and I've run across the same info that you have about that Squire production era being a testbed for the MIM Fender models ... the big F, small S on the headstock adding to that rumor.

So still probably worth at least a buck fifty if that's true.

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(@primeta)
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I can't read the MIM either, but i think greybeard's right, as usual. Squiers were made in Mexico for a few years. A quicjk search will bring up plenty of info :P

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(@off-he-goes)
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Thats interesting. I never heard of Mexican Squiers, but then again, I never went looking. In a guitar shop the other day, and a guy was planning a pickup swap for his Japanesse Squier. Are the mexi's of the same quality and interst as the MIJ?

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(@greybeard)
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The old JV series and Silver Series are slowly becoming collectable (especially in original condition). These are guitars made around 1982-1985/6 and were marked "Made in Japan". The JVs had a serial number, beginning with JV (V for the decade, J for Japan), the Silver series have a headstock transfer (where this guitar has "Squier") with the legend "Silver Series" - I'm not sure whether they all had JV numbers, though.
As an MIM Squier, I'd happily pay 150 for it.
The JVs and Silver Series are regarded as being as good, if not better than MIA Strats.

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(@biker_jim_uk)
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go on then, how can you read the MIM and serial?


   
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