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(@audioboy)
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21/02/2006 8:50 pm  

So in the near future (maybe a month or so) I am thinking of buying an epiphone, specifically this one

http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=24&CollectionID=3

and I kind of had my eye one this one

http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=31&CollectionID=3

but I figured it would be too expensive, especially since I haven't been playing guitar for a year yet. But I was wondering what you guys opinions would be on those guitars and epiphones in general


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21/02/2006 9:23 pm  

Personally, I am not a big fan of the flying V (had one for awhile) so I would lean towards the SG but everyones taste is a little different.

However, the real question is which one do YOU like?

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(@pvtele)
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21/02/2006 9:27 pm  

The G-400's are superb guitars, almost my favourite Epi. Epi's are to Gibson like Squier is to Fender, and probably there's the same degree of variation from one instrument to another - so try a few, if you can, before buying, and choose the one that sounds and feels right to you.

Can't speak for the Flying V - I don't like them, they feel out of balance and wrong standing up, and all but impossible to play sitting down. :( But they do have a sound all of their own, and if you like that sound, and can live with the downright weird ergonomics, why not? I'd guess the Epi's a good, well made guitar too, just like the exemplary and very cool G-400.

(You can tell, maybe, that I used to play and love an SG, and often regret having sold it in a fit of being broke, many years ago!)


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(@wes-inman)
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21/02/2006 10:39 pm  

This is when reading reviews is helpful.

Flying V reviews

SG G-400 reviews

When reading reviews you have to look at the average. It is not a good idea to pay attention to the reviews that say "the best guitar ever" or "the worst guitar ever".

But you can pick up a lot from reviews. For instance, I read a few of the Flying V reviews and several said this guitar was a little neck heavy as PVTele mentioned. This would bother me personally. I used to play a borrowed bass that was neck heavy and I hated it. If you let go of the neck it would dive on you. Very uncomfortable to me. These reviews did not say this guitar was that bad, but it is something to take note of.

Anyway, lots to read.

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(@twistedlefty)
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22/02/2006 10:02 am  

any particular reason you are limiting your choices to only those two, or epiphones?
imo they are two very different guitars for several reasons as already stated above.

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(@bobblehat)
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22/02/2006 11:14 am  

My personal preference would be the SG.Great guitar, good value for money and easy to play.My son learnt to play on an SG copy I have great for learning solos with the extra frets and looks cool too!
The Explorer is a great looking guitar but a bit of a handful to play especially if you've not been playing long.

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(@undercat)
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22/02/2006 6:34 pm  

The guitar that will make you play the most is the guitar you should buy, absolutely.

And it can't be said enough times: Absolutely do not buy any lower priced (<$500) without playing it. They vary so much from axe to axe, it's too much of a gamble.

I actually played an Epi SG last week that I really liked the look and feel of, but the guitar was so HEAVY it was a deal breaker. I mean really, this guitar far outweighed my LP, which is ridiculous.

If you can, play a couple of the Gibson SG's or V's before you buy, that way you'll know what's being imitated and how close you're getting. Not to say that every Gibson is a standout, but on average they're certainly in a different league.

Good luck.

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(@minus_human)
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23/02/2006 5:07 am  

i think nils and others are right go with what you want. I don't have a Flying V so i can't comment on them but by epi explorer is also a little neck heavy. When playing solos (trying anyway) it's sometimes a problem,otherwise it's not bad.

Honestly i would stay away from a guitar that does that if it's going to be your only good axe.

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(@riff-raff)
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23/02/2006 12:23 pm  

My son wants an SG when he outgrows his Fender mini. He says it's comfortable to hold and he likes the look (he's a big fan of Angus Young). He also prefer's the crunch of humbucker's over his single coils.

PVTele brought up a good point. I've never played a flying V sitting down, but I couldn't imagine that it's even possible. I'd imagine that it would sit on your lap right where the neck attaches to the body. You'd probably be forced to support it's entire weight when playing most of the time. This would be a deal breaker for me since 99.95% of my playing is in the sitting position.


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23/02/2006 1:20 pm  

PVTele brought up a good point. I've never played a flying V sitting down, but I couldn't imagine that it's even possible. I'd imagine that it would sit on your lap right where the neck attaches to the body. You'd probably be forced to support it's entire weight when playing most of the time. This would be a deal breaker for me since 99.95% of my playing is in the sitting position.

I have seen it done by putting the crotch, as it were, of the V over your right thigh. The bottom point goes down between your legs, which you hold a little apart. The neck of course sticks up like Bill Wyman's old Framus bass. It feels as bad as it looks :lol: Keep it up and I imagine you'd walk funny for the rest of your life :shock:


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(@misanthrope)
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23/02/2006 3:36 pm  

I had the loan ofa flying V for a week once, and it was absolutely awful to play sat down, and not particularly comfortable standing up either. I did only play it twice though, as it was one of two loans - the other being a real '59 Les Paul :shock: (I'm not worthy now, I certainly wasn't way back when this was...)

Anyhoo, definately try out a flying V for as long as possible before parting with cash for one - I get the feeling they're love 'em or hate 'em type guitars to play.

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(@andrewlubinus89)
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24/02/2006 7:27 am  

Spinal tap ruined flying v's for me with that suggestive end performance. I like how steinberger put that little flip out bar that keeps it from sliding off your lap while you play it. That said I like the epiphone sg more but it is up to you in the end.

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(@blackzerogsh)
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24/02/2006 12:30 pm  

I say go with the SG, because it's just way more comfortable then the Flying V. As everyone before me said, it really is a hassle to even start playing that thing, becase it'd be so hard just to get comfortable first, then to hold that position for a long time.


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(@youngrawker)
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27/02/2006 12:21 am  

forget 'em both and get a les paul.....

'nuf said.


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