Who invented that chord? He (or she) should be hung on the big rock candy mountain alongside the jerk who invented work.
Used to be, was a part of me felt like hiding.. but now it comes through. Comes through to you.
Barre chord issue?
Well, what's wrong with it? Sounds kinda nice...
May we assume Bb minor and B minor are somewhat similarly annoying for you ? No offense intended... :wink:
If the barre is causing you aggravation, have you considered playing Cm, [and the others] as 4-note chords ?
Many players do.
Example: Cm being xx5543, using pinky & ring in 5th fret, middle in 4th fret, index in 3rd fret.
Or going up to the 8th fret and barring the top 3 strings with index finger, and nailing the 4th string with your ring finger in the 10th fret ?
"A child of five could understand this...send someone to fetch a child of five !"--Groucho Marx
Cm: x3101x
I don't barre it, I don't really have trouble with barres. You can barre Cm in the first position, but I want that open G string.
Anyway -- I told someone of my hatred for the chord and they suggested some alternatives:
024030
004030
The first one in particular sounds fine as a replacement. I like strumming Cm near the bridge, it makes me feel mysterious. I'd go on record saying Cm is the most mysterious of all the chords.
Used to be, was a part of me felt like hiding.. but now it comes through. Comes through to you.
Personally, Cm is my all time favourite chord (so far lat least!), was so happy when I finally got Am barre's down to play it well! :lol:
To someone who knows these things; Would I be right in thinking that 024030 is (almost) a Gmaj7? And could this actually be used as a substitute for Cm in cases?
Just looking to expand my chord dictionary... :D
Pete
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Would I be right in thinking that 024030 is (almost) a Gmaj7? And could this actually be used as a substitute for Cm in cases?
With G root, it's G maj 13th (with 9th and 11th omitted, which is common)
With E root, it's Eminor 9th (with nothing omitted)
I can't think of any context where it would make a good substitute for Cm
How about in the context of me saying "it would make a good substitute for Cm."?
If it's not a good substitute, maybe you could list some good substitutes.
Used to be, was a part of me felt like hiding.. but now it comes through. Comes through to you.
How about in the context of me saying "it would make a good substitute for Cm."?
I didn't say it wasn't a good substitute, just that I don't know in which context it would make one. I can think of some obvious cases where it certainly wouldn't work, such as substituting for the key (i) chord in a song in C minor. I was hoping someone would supply a case where it does work.
I assumed you didn't know either as you asked the question in the first place. But if you've already found a context where it works then please share it.
How about in the context of me saying "it would make a good substitute for Cm."?
I didn't say it wasn't a good substitute, just that I don't know in which context it would make one. I can think of some obvious cases where it certainly wouldn't work, such as substituting for the I chord in a song in C minor. I was hoping someone would supply a case where it does work.
I assumed you didn't know either as you asked the question in the first place. But if you've already found a context where it works then please share it.
It was intended as a joke. Playing on the idea of context within a sentence versus context within a song or chord progression. I should've thrown on some emoticon or something, but ah well. When you explain a joke it is no longer a joke.
But I am interested in hearing some alternatives to Cm -- I could play it with a barre chord in the first position, but to me that doesn't sound as good.
Used to be, was a part of me felt like hiding.. but now it comes through. Comes through to you.
Bah - Cm is old news. All the cool kids are playing C#m these days
One of the big things with the C-minor chord is that it is, well, minor. A chord is made minor by using the 3b, or Eb in this case. Both your replacements use an E, which is pretty odd for a Cm substitute. Why not try a simple 'almost' barre chord: [x x 5 5 4 3], no barre needed and it's a full proper Cm chord.
It was intended as a joke. Playing on the idea of context within a sentence versus context within a song or chord progression. I should've thrown on some emoticon or something, but ah well. When you explain a joke it is no longer a joke.
But I am interested in hearing some alternatives to Cm -- I could play it with a barre chord in the first position, but to me that doesn't sound as good.
I'm too sensitive these days, that's my trouble :lol:
When it comes to substituting, what works usually depends on the key and the function of a particular chord within that key. So in the key of Eb major for example, Ab major (chord IV) can substitute for C minor (chord vi) because they're usually (but not always) doing a similar job and have two notes in common Ab = Ab C Eb and Cm = C Eb G.
Another way is to keep the same triad and extend it with 7ths, 9ths etc.
play the triad somewhere else
like was said Cminor is just C-Eb-G
that fingering you are using is scaring me, just find an easier way to play it
Alternatively trying to play a B# minor may make things a bit easier... and its a great substitution for C minor
(sorry... :lol: )
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