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rparker
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Little "clink" when tuning strings. Sounds like it's at the saddle. I've seen these graphite pencils. Next time I change my strings, should I this on the nut and the saddle?

Roy
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Can't hurt. This usually is more of a nut than a saddle problem. If graphite doesn't help, it may be because one or more nut slots is a little narrow and needs a little widening or reshaping.

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Thanks gnease. I'll try graphite first then.

Another thing with it, I did a full bend on the g string and it got out of tune.

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Wound G? They're the worse culprit for sticking at the nut (presumably because the nut can't be made wide enough as standard to account for people who use a plain G). It's basically sticking as you tune up, leaving the part of the string from the nut to the tuning peg with more tension than the part of the string from the nut to the bridge. When you bend, you put more tension on the latter side which pulls it through the nut a bit, but when you release the bend the balance of tension between the two parts has changed and you need to retune. I generally widen the nut slot by using an old wound G string as an improvised file - just be careful you don't make it lower as well as wider :)

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Wound G? They're the worse culprit for sticking at the nut (presumably because the nut can't be made wide enough as standard to account for people who use a plain G). It's basically sticking as you tune up, leaving the part of the string from the nut to the tuning peg with more tension than the part of the string from the nut to the bridge. When you bend, you put more tension on the latter side which pulls it through the nut a bit, but when you release the bend the balance of tension between the two parts has changed and you need to retune. I generally widen the nut slot by using an old wound G string as an improvised file - just be careful you don't make it lower as well as wider :)

Exactly. And the associated "sticky nut" tuning noise is often a very high pitched "PING!" as the tension differential become great enough to finally pull the stuck string through the nut slot. That causes the string segment between the nut and tuner capstan to vibrate.

+1 on filing with an old, wound G string.

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true. also look at how you wound your string to the post. I have found when I've been in a hurry restringing
I invariably wind the string incorrectly and it shifts on the post later on. it can make a ping noise.
another thing to consider. have you went to a larger gauge string?

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I find I get this *ping* noise sometimes as well. I figured it was the just the string making a little noise as it is stretched back to higher tension.

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I have the same problem with the G on my acoustic...

I try to tune it with a tuner and the arrow doesn't move even if I tight the string (the sound doesn't seem to change) and then, that CLINK sound came out of the tuning key and my tuner tells me that the string is too tight... It really is.. I tought my string would have break...

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Nope, not wound. It's regular wire, whatever the term is. It's on my EPI LP. Same guage I've been using for years. I think I'll get one of those graphite pencils this week and try that when I change the strings. They're due anyhow.

One thing. Should I also graphite the saddle?

Roy
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Can't hurt.

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Nope, not wound. It's regular wire, whatever the term is. It's on my EPI LP. Same guage I've been using for years. I think I'll get one of those graphite pencils this week and try that when I change the strings. They're due anyhow.

One thing. Should I also graphite the saddle?

I do the nut slots and the saddles. Why? There is tension on all those spots.

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Nope, not wound. It's regular wire, whatever the term is. It's on my EPI LP. Same guage I've been using for years. I think I'll get one of those graphite pencils this week and try that when I change the strings. They're due anyhow.

One thing. Should I also graphite the saddle?

I do the nut slots and the saddles. Why? There is tension on all those spots.

That's about what I wuz thinking. Just wanted to make sure it was not a no-no before I did it.

Roy
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After you do the saddles wipe away the excess. You'll end up getting some of that gunk on your picking hand when palm muting chords. But only for awhile.

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Well, I went to the guitar store yesterday. Turns out I need something called Nut Sauce. Alas, they were out. :roll:

So, I'm thinking of running do the auto parts store and seeing what they might have.

Roy
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They'll have lanolin grease. Get some. I've been using pure anhydrous lanolin on my nuts. Great stuff! :mrgreen:

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