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(@rparker)
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I've got a beat up MIM Tele that I've modified by placing a rail humbucker in the neck position. Stones tunes, mostly. Always in open g. I was fiddling around with this some on Saturday night and decided to turn on the EQ going in to my Fender Blues Deluxe's clean channel. Low and behold, the tone was magical. It was hopping and alive. Makes me wonder what a Tele in standard tuning would sound like without the humbucker in the neck spot. Hmmmmm

Here are my EQ settings:
100 = +5
200 = even
400 = even
800 = +5
1.6k = +7.5
3.2k = even
6.4k = -5

Roy
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(@dogbite)
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an EQ can do wonders. it is good that you wrote the numbers down. trying to find that sound at another time would be hard otherwise. I am a tried and true tele fan. they sound good no matter whats in em.
I like EQing. I have my mids up and like the result.

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(@benpari)
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not to hijack the topic, but does anyone know of a guide or something to help me understand how to change my sound with EQ? Since I started playing electric I havnt even figured out a way to set my 3 knobs on my amp in a way I like, let alone if I had 7 bands.

Thanks!


   
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(@rparker)
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not to hijack the topic, but does anyone know of a guide or something to help me understand how to change my sound with EQ? Since I started playing electric I havnt even figured out a way to set my 3 knobs on my amp in a way I like, let alone if I had 7 bands.

Thanks!

This is a thread from a few months ago. Wes and others gave some good insight. Just keep in mind that different amps will sound, well, different. I started with what Wes gave me and adjusted to sound good on mine. https://www.guitarnoise.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=35356

Roy
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(@dogbite)
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I have a two knob tone control on my amp. how I set that depends on which instrument I am using.
for all my lap steel work I turn the treble down quite a bit. depending on the room I am in , it can be very low (3). I have the bass up at 6 or 7. I do this becaue the high end on the lap steel sounds harsh. rolling off the treble mellows it perfectly.
conversely, when I have a tle plugged in I have my treble and bass both straight up.
with my EQ pedal with five freqs. same thing. only I like my mids up a bit above flat. I dont care for those scooped mids; the V shape. but then I dont play metal or shred.
just carefully listen to your sound when playing with the dial or sliders. take notes. record yourself and listen to how that sounds. remember too, it is hard to be objective. and my ears or mood changes. so be flexible.

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Ray,

It's like a revelation when you finally dial in a tone you like. I haven't spend alot of time tweaking my tone...well actually like zero and I almost never like what I hear when I'm playing, but I jam with Wes when he can make it over and he is a tone junky so he always tweaks my amp's etc and gets me a decent tone but I never right them down and up until the last few weeks cahnged what I used for effects constsantly mostly using none since I hated the batteries going dead on my pedals. i bought one of those One-spot things to power my pedals so from now on I will use them all the time.

I did finally dial in something decent last Friday all by myself (I'm so proud) and I'll see if I can repeat it or maybe improve on it tomorrow.

The problem well it's not really a problem is we play such a wide variety of songs I haven't even tried tweaking the sounds for each. Like last Friday we played Enter Sandman, then we played Tighten Up (remember Archie Bell and the Drells) then ZZ Top, then a John Lee Hooker blues song Boom Boom, then some Kenny Wayne Shepard Blue on Black..

I never heard the Blue on Black song before but it's a really cool tune if you haven't heard it check it out.

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(@rparker)
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Dogbite, I can see now how one would like them a lot. I've played mine quite a bit for Stones tunes. It's always come through great on the tube amp. I don't mess around with tone a whole lot. I just have not gotten the feel for what to tweak yet.

I've never had mine out of open g tuning. I'm tempted to try it out though. Heck, Sam Ash is having one of those 20% off one item, 5 hour sales later today. Ya never know....

cnev: Yup, I remember that song. Pretty good tune.

Wes is sure all knowledgable in the tone department.

I also like those pedal power supplies too. When I first got into pedals, I figured one of those was a no-brainer.

Roy
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(@wes-inman)
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Here is a pretty good video explaining the "tone stack" on your guitar amp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQanVdQPAMg&feature=related

I 100% agree with this fellow about boosting mids. That scooped mids tone sounds great in the bedroom playing by yourself, but in a band situation you need to boost your mids or nobody will hear you no matter how loud you crank your amp. The drums and bass will bury you.

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(@dogbite)
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re: boosting mids... Wes...in a live situation is where I learned that I sounded better and cut through with the mids up above the flat line. further, treble freqs cut through a mix better too.

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