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(@guyvv)
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Can someone tell me what a D9flat4 chord is (which notes on which string)?
Is there another name for the chord? Thanx!


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(@musenfreund)
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Welcome to the asylum for the musically insane!

D9flat4--
Hmm,

well, the formula is
1 3 5 7b 9, but the 5 can be omitted.

I play a D9 typically at the fifth fret with root on the fifth string:

x 5 4 5 5 (5)

D F# C E (A)

The fourth in the scale is G, but the flatted G is F# again. And since you already have a flatted fourth in the scale (the third), I'd think a D9 by itself would work.

I must be missing something. But until you get a better answer from someone who really knows this stuff, try a D9 and see if it sounds right.

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(@alex_)
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lets start easy and build up..

D major = D F# A
D major 7 = D F# A C#
D dominant 7 = D F# A C (D7)
D dominant 9 = D F# A C E (D9)

now you dont add the FOURTH (G).. as there is a 3rd in there allready..

but you can add the ELEVENTH (G).. i know stupid technical things.. even though its the same note.

so you could have

D11 - D F# A C E G..

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now the flat 4 is, well the flat 11, which would be Gb... which is enharmonic to F#... the third of the chord.. so there is never a need to add a flat 4/11.. (unless it didnt allready have a third in the chord) because it is just doubling the third..

so ill try and find a fingering for D11 for you..

if you dont want this G in this chord (because i presume you wanted an F#, which you allready had, then stick with a D9)..

E- 12- E
B- 10 - A
G-11- F#
D-10 - C
A-10- G
E-10 - D

and for D9.. just dont play the G.. you can play the 12th fret for an A (doubled fifth)


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(@markminni)
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What song is this from? Give us the chord before and the chord after,so we could give you practical fingering for the chord.

Here is 2 octaves of the D major scale with intervals:

D-E-F#-G-A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G-A--B-C#-D
1-2-3--4- 5-6--7--8--9-3--11-5-13--7- 8

Formula for D9 chord:
1,3,5,b7,9
D,F#,A,C,E

There is no D9b4 chord. If you add a b4(The 4th is a G, b4 is Gb, a Gb is F#, F# is the 3rd) its the same as adding a 3rd.

If they ment D9add4, that is a D11 chord
1,3,5,b7,9,11
D,F#,A,C,E,G

Give us more info so we could help you better.


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(@alex_)
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it could be he meant to say sus4 instead of flat 4 though.


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(@musenfreund)
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it could be he meant to say sus4 instead of flat 4 though.

In which case he would only need to barre the fifth fret of the first five strings. Maybe that's it.

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D9sus4 is ------>X-5-X-5-5-3 fingering from left to right would be 2 3 4 1


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(@musenfreund)
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D9sus4 is ------>X-5-X-5-5-3 fingering from left to right would be 2 3 4 1

But barring the fifth fret across the first five strings might be an easier fingering for D9sus4

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D9sus4 is ------>X-5-X-5-5-3 fingering from left to right would be 2 3 4 1

But barring the fifth fret across the first five strings might be an easier fingering for D9sus4

yeah but then you won't be able to finger the third fret on the high e and muting the D string might be a problem.


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(@musenfreund)
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D9sus4 is ------>X-5-X-5-5-3 fingering from left to right would be 2 3 4 1

But barring the fifth fret across the first five strings might be an easier fingering for D9sus4

yeah but then you won't be able to finger the third fret on the high e and muting the D string might be a problem.
No, you won't need the third fret on the high e.

the D9sus4 needs these notes:

D G A C E

Thus

x 5 5 5 5 5 gives you:
D G C E A

The perfect recipe for the chord. You want to fret the high on the third fret to get the G, but I got the G on the fifth fret of the fourth string, which is exactly where the suspended third was.

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(@hobsonator)
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Maybe it is a D9flat5. That would be D F# Ab C E


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(@noteboat)
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Maybe it is a D9flat5. That would be D F# Ab C E

Ninth chords have b7s in them, so it would be D-F#-Ab-C-E

You can't have a b4 in a chord - as Alex pointed out, a b4 is the same as a 3, so there's no such thing as D9b4.

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(@guyvv)
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I've got the chordname from the website of The Commitments, an Irish soulband (cf. movie). They play the chord in their version of "I can't stand the rain": F - G - Bb - Am - D9flat4...


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(@musenfreund)
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Try the D9 or the D9sus4. Does one of them sound right? There's a mistake in the way the tab you've got names the chord.

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Maybe they were smoking some Irish Spring, 'cause nobody here seems to be able to justify it's existance. Neither can I for that matter, so then the ruling would have to be that there is no such thing. Must be an error on their part.

E-6 official ruling on the field.

Play a power chord instead and get even with them.

Ok, sorry, off to bed.

more medicine please.

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