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 Taso
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Hey fellas, I'm back! Haha, run away.

So, today I am presenting to you my 'cover' of Sunshine of Your Love. I call it a 'cover' in qoutes because I didn't really change that much, until the solo (negative changes) and the last verse/outro (What I think are positive changes)

The solo was kinda tough for me, not skill wise, but learning it. It requires very precise movements for each single riff to sound the way it was origininally done. I did not want to take the time just to copy Clapton's solo, ergo you have a solo partly done by clapton, partly done by me, inspired by Clapton. I wasn't to happy with the result to be honest, and some parts are pretty bad, and I know that I need to work on it. So, all criticisms (be as harsh as you'd like) are welcome, and greatly wanted actually.

The outro was to be honest, the part I was most happy with. Several changes (some improv, and a change in the way one of the chords was played in the verse) came out well in the recording. So I was pleased with that, although don't hesitate to tell me if you don't like it, I'm always welcoming of constructive criticism.

Another thing that I didn't really like, was that I used http://www.guitarbt.com for the backing track (thank you Rich). I feel that it gives it a fake sound. Well, it does for me, because I know that I wasnt playing with a drummer and a bassist when I did it, although it sounds real enough. Anyways, slight note is all.

All suggestions are welcome, thanks a bunch.

Taso

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Posted : 17/10/2004 4:26 pm
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Not too bad, Taso. The overall sound is good -- your playing is blending well with the backing track.

The one thing to work on that will make every aspect better -- riff and solo -- is your timing. Your attacks are missing the beat here and there and it is very obvious in such a rhythm-driven song. Things can be looser during the solo, but you should still reinforce the rhythm once in a while.

If you don't mind, practice with it some more and repost a new version when you think you've improved upon yourself.

-Greg

-=tension & release=-

 
Posted : 18/10/2004 12:18 pm
 Taso
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Do you think you could be more specific my good sir? I know timing is an issue with me, (just remember Layla ;) but I didn't notice that on this one really. Could you point out a specific spot, so I can see what your referring to?

Also, what did you think of the different ending?

Thanks much man, again all comments are appreciated. After a few more suggestions, and once this is cleared up I'll try again.

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Posted : 18/10/2004 7:47 pm
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First of all: Good work. Sounds very nice!

As for timing: listen to the 2:25-2:40 part. It is rather obvious you lost timing a bit.

 
Posted : 18/10/2004 10:03 pm
 Taso
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God, lol, so true. Thank you for the kind words first of all.

As for that, I completly agree. Although I'd lesson the range there to 2:25 through 2:35.. I actually like the solo from 2:35 on. The entire solo before that is when I was trying to mimick clapton, and it didn't go so well as you can clearly see. from 2:35 on I just played it by ear, and I definitly like it more than pre 2:35. But yes, before than I felt I was doing terrible.. Especially coming in on that slide to 13 on B and 14 on G, it sounded so weak. Thanks for the input Arjen.

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Posted : 18/10/2004 10:27 pm
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Taso-

When I have more time, I'll listen again and provide more specifics. That said, you're not far off a really good job with this, just need to tighen your groove a bit.

I never bother learning a solo note-for-note. Instead, I try to capture a couple of the tasty parts and fill in everything else with my own version that might give a nod to the original -- or sometimes I just try to do it completely different. So, playing your own version is the way to go as far as I'm concerned. Keep it up.

- Greg

-=tension & release=-

 
Posted : 19/10/2004 2:24 am
 Taso
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Ok. I redid the solo. I think the timing in it is a lot better, and less fumbling around. Let me know what you think of the solo, the whole thing, and especially the different ending... Thanks guys.

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Posted : 20/10/2004 8:27 pm
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I like that you changed the style a little, you changed a lot of the staccato attacks to longer notes. but it sounds a little sloppier with the long connected notes at the end of each riff. I'm not sure if that's a good way to approach it, although it is a good thing to do when covering a song.
Nice little pull-off stuff before the outro

I don't follow my dreams, I just ask em' where they're going and catch up with them later.
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Posted : 21/10/2004 1:56 am
 Taso
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I'm assuming you mean the pull offs after each riff, towards the end... Thanks! I had shown the idea to a friend of mine, who thought it would be to much if I did it the whole way threw, so I just did it randomly in there, at the end..

I'll look more closely at whatyou said tomorrow, Yanks lost, and being a New Yorker you can bet I may not actually be here tomorrow... jussssst kidding.

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Posted : 21/10/2004 3:10 am
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Listened a couple more times, Taso.

Again, good tone, good choice of notes in the solo. As Snoogans says, the pull-off, hammer-on at the end of the later riffs is a nice touch.

The timing issues happen mostly in one part of the riff. You are sometimes missing the beat on the first note of the descending chromatic. First examples at or near :30 and :38, plus in the riffs right after the solo break (IIRC about 2:52 and 3:13). Gotta lock time with the bass and drummer on this -- really punctuate it.

In the solos, your best work is when you are taking your time and holding or bending into notes, esp with vibrato. The beginning of the solo starts very nicely. However, when you start play more notes per measure, the solo sounds less confident and the timing gets a bit wobbly. You have a much more confident, soulful feeling in the less busy parts.

Hope this helps.

-Greg

-=tension & release=-

 
Posted : 21/10/2004 5:06 pm
 Taso
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something ive got to work on then... Hopefully I'll have something posted by the end of the night, lots of work to do though. The bending with the vibrato is actually really hard for me, I'm surprised I did it once that solo, but I know the part you speak of. I'm going to redo the entire thing hopefully by tonight. Snoogans, I'll try and work on that sloppiness, although I may just keep playing it like that, depending on what I think... I'm tired, my thoughts here are very unoriganized/repetitive/stupid.

Thanks for all the comments guys, very apprecaited.

Taso

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Posted : 21/10/2004 8:38 pm
 Taso
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Well, I started doing it almost right after I made the post.

Im pretty happy with this one. I noticed after listening to it that I was off time once or twice, but not worth doing it over to me...

I was pretty happy with the solo, I slowed down as Gnease suggested... At first I tried it with wah wah, but, Idk, maybe I'll work on that another time.. The outro came out pretty good too I think.

Also worked out that sloppiness you noticed Snoogans, I think I did at least, as I said, I'm very tired.

Anywho, once again, all comments for better or for worse .. (?) are welcome, thanks much guys.

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Posted : 21/10/2004 10:03 pm
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Yeah, you are definitely progressing, Taso. Much tighter on the riff. The solo is coming along well.

-G

-=tension & release=-

 
Posted : 25/10/2004 12:16 pm
 Taso
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I decided to take a little break from the song, but now that I'm back, hehe. How do you think it could be improved Gnease? Just spending more time messing around in D with the backing track before I actually record maybe?

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Posted : 13/11/2004 9:27 pm
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Not a bad idea, Taso. See if you can come up with some soloing progressions or riffs of your own to complement the main riff. Have some fun with it. Even slight variations such as the pull-offs you've been adding to the main riff work toward making the tune your own piece.

-Greg

-=tension & release=-

 
Posted : 14/11/2004 1:56 am
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