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(@dogbite)
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I have a new m-audio oxygen 8v2 midi keyboard controller. wow, it comes loaded with potentially cool sounding vst instruments.
in the user tech manual there is a ton of info about note on, note off, and so much more my head is swimming. it gets that way after reading tech instruction manuals.
I succeeded in loading the drivers onto my computer. the device appears in my digital recording program.
I also had success with opening a track, getting the midi device to actually put input onto the track; I saw the volume bar jump around. I cannot hear anything on playback.
before I check into my recording software manual (to make sure I have it set up right)...is there something on the midi keyboard itself that I need to turn up or on or or off or send or something?????
can someone explain to me how midi devices work? how they interface with a recording program?
what dials or buttons are important and which ones are rarely used? that kind of thing.
your experiences would be helpful.

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(@twistedlefty)
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sometimes when installing new stuff your windows audio settings get screwed up, maybe check there.

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(@dogbite)
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good idea. I looked and everything looked ok. my desk top speakers and monitors work. I checked to see if soundclick worked on the desktops. yes. I ran a recorded tracks through the big monitors. that all works. the recording software works. the D.I. is working.
I have about eliminated everything. the problem must reside in how I have the Ins and Outs set on the device and/or the recording.
it is crazy. I can see the recorded data. so I know my connections work.
is there a special hammer I need to use?

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I have a new m-audio oxygen 8v2 midi keyboard controller. wow, it comes loaded with potentially cool sounding vst instruments.
in the user tech manual there is a ton of info about note on, note off, and so much more my head is swimming. it gets that way after reading tech instruction manuals.
I succeeded in loading the drivers onto my computer. the device appears in my digital recording program.
I also had success with opening a track, getting the midi device to actually put input onto the track; I saw the volume bar jump around. I cannot hear anything on playback.
before I check into my recording software manual (to make sure I have it set up right)...is there something on the midi keyboard itself that I need to turn up or on or or off or send or something?????
can someone explain to me how midi devices work? how they interface with a recording program?
what dials or buttons are important and which ones are rarely used? that kind of thing.
your experiences would be helpful.

Ok - you've got the recording software receiving and recording the input. You're halfway there.
The track will need the output going to a hardware synth, or a VST instrument.

What software are ya using?

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I am using Cubase. thanks for the reply.

I repeated all the steps and it works now.
it was easy to select a vst instrument within Cubase. I have that down.
I have not yet been able to use the new midi's on board vsts, etc. I have not cracked that code yet.
the manual is no help.

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I am using Cubase. thanks for the reply.

I have not yet been able to use the new midi's on board vsts, etc. I have not cracked that code yet.
the manual is no help.

You'll need to add the directories where the new VSTis were installed to the list of places that Cubase checks. Then they'll appear in your list of available VST Instuments.

You should find it in the Preferences under VST Instuments ( or something like that - been a while since I used Cubase )

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(@dogbite)
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thanks moonrider. the list of vst instruments were there. it had a different name than I expected.
I have things sorted out with cubase and midi. having a riot hearing all those new sounds.

I have yet to get a handle on the midi's control panel. but I am up and running. the basics were solved.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=644552
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That's why I love Apple. It just lets you do whatever you want.


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thanks moonrider. the list of vst instruments were there. it had a different name than I expected.
I have things sorted out with cubase and midi. having a riot hearing all those new sounds.

I have yet to get a handle on the midi's control panel. but I am up and running. the basics were solved.

lost this thread in the mix, glad to hear you got it sorted out.

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(@dogbite)
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oh yeah. that is sorted out. going smoothly. still need to understand how my controller works inregartd to note strength, loudness etc.
that's in the manual and somehow...it looks like english, but it dores not read as easy. they assume too much of the reader.

ordered EZ drummer. should be hee soon.

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i've been flirting with the idea of trying ezdrummer out. i look forward to your review, tutorials, etc...

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Dogbite: after you record a MIDI track you can doubleclick on the track in cubase. A new screen will open showing all notes: blue means soft, red means loud, purple is in between. You can drag the notes to a different space in time or to a different pitch, and you can change it's velocity/volume by selectring the note(s) and chosing midi->functions->velocity. This allows you to shape a track precisely the way you want to. Also, with the midi->quantize setup you can sync the MIDI notes to the tempo of the song, so if your timing was off and you need it to be 100% tight you can do that in a few clicks.


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(@dogbite)
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arjen...I did not know that. guess what I will be doing soon??? thanks so much for the info.

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