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 Bish
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Ready for a read that might take you a day?

Sit back, grab your favorite consumables...and leave your troubles behind.

Back in 5th grade, I was finally able to understand the concept of bands and music and the entire world of rocknroll as it was back then. (Dinosaurs have left the earth by then.)

I'm gearing up for a summer of excitement. I'm getting my first guitar, a 1968 Yamaha semihollow body electric guitar.

I'm learning all the cool songs of that era and started my own band. I played guitar for about a year and then ran into another guitarist who had just moved to the area and he and I started trading riffs. Sadly, he was way better than I ever hoped to be and during that same time the drummer for my band quit coming to practice.

As a band we still wanted to move forward so I volunteered to take over the drum duties until a replacement was found. That never happened so within weeks I became the drummer for the band. Drumming came naturally and I was able to learn all the drum parts to our songlist in short order and we started gigging.

I have been in many locally successful bands over those last 30 years. We've gigged for as little as a handful of (loyal to the bar) patrons all the way to SRO shows backing headliners.

Along the way, I still tinkered with my guitar, if for no other reason, because it was there. I still played my handful of open chords and barre chords. Never really getting the full impact of guitar playing it was just a background hobby.

A few years ago, I had a life altering experience that made me want to sit down and write out and compose my feelings and experiences. Tremendous surges of ideas and inspirations were bursting the seams of my inner being to the point I had to get these ideas on tape or at least paper. Being a drummer by nature and trade didn't allow for much melody creation and formulation so I fell back on my old friend the Yamaha.

That guitar had never had anything done to it in the 30 plus years I've owned it. I couldn't even tell you how old those strings are. I fear they were one oxidation away from total corrosion. So it was a good stand by but not what I really needed. So for the first few months I used an old Casio keyboard to laydown my stuff. I'm NOT a keyboardist so hacking out the notes and chords was time consuming to say the least but I did get most of my ideas recorded. But still, the urge to be able to play those tunes on a guitar still was eating at me.

So I broke down and purchased a Squier Strat pack from Musicians friend in Jan. '05. That was the beginning of my quest for the perfect guitar. I had that pack for almost 9 months. In getting familiar with that new guitar and opening a new world of music creativity for me I plunged in head first and haven't looked back since.

The song producing has slowed some due to other life activities but still is a major player in my everyday existence. I've acquired huge amounts of musical information thanks to all of you here on GN. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've also become very intimate with the guitar and have had the pleasure of owning and playing many very nice guitars. Over the course of the last two years, I've owned the following guitars....

Schecter C-1+
EPI Tommy Iommi SG
EPI SG Studio Les Paul
EPI Les Paul Studio
EPI Les Paul Custom - Still have
Fender Light Ash Tele
Fender MIA Deluxe - Still have
2 Squier '51's - Still have
PRS Tremonti SE
PRS Custom 24 - Still have
Stagg A/E - Still have

I also own a Washburn 4 string electric bass.

During this tenure with my guitar fetish, I have still been gigging with the Rock n Roll bands as their drummer up until the end of '06. I had gotten fed up with the lack of professionalism with my last RnR band and quit. At the same time, a conversation developed with a country/country rock band and I was immediately put into the roll of drummer for the band Dani Lynn Howe - http://www.dlhband.com .

Now this was a stretch as their song list included 40 + songs I'd never heard nor played or had any familiarity with them. So I was way out of my comfort zone attempting to fill the last drummers shoes who'd been with them for many years. I was thrust into the spot light within 30 days of joining the band and had to gig with them at least 30 days sooner than our time line had been. Each week I would get closer and closer to having the songs learned and able to perform with the band. To this day I'm not completely at ease yet, due to the fact that certain parts of certain songs are still unfamiliar to me. Sadly, this makes me dread practice and gigging since I'm not ON MY GAME with this band. As you may have read in other threads, I'd seriously thought about throwing in the towel since I hadn't felt I'd been measuring up. I mean this band has been playing these songs since for the past 20 years and could play them in their sleep. As could I given a Rock song.

Last night another milestone ocurred with this band. I was bummed about going to practice fearing more humiliation in not being completely ready for rehearsal. As it came to pass, the guitarist decided to put together a list of older classic rock songs to add to the mix of my already foreign set lists. However, now the shoe was on the other foot. The songs he introduced to us last night were songs I'd already played in bands previously. Funny, cause now I get to watch the others sweat while trying to learn these songs from my realm of the music world.

So after 6 months of soul searching whether or not to stick it out with this band, I actually had a blast a practice last night since I already knew the songs and had no stress to be up to par with the rest of the band. So now that this learning curve has settled down, I can refocus on my current love affair with the guitar.

With that said, I should be able to get on track with my music projects and bore the crap out of you with my stuff I'll be populating on Hear Here.

And mostly, thank you to everyone who's befriended me and helped me or just said "Hi" on occassion.

Thank you, also for allowing me access to this great home!!!!!

Bish

"I play live as playing dead is harder than it sounds!"


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Drummers revenge! lol good for you Bish

also i was looking at the song list and thats pretty impressive.
remind me next time you play Iowa City and i'll try to make a trip up to my Moms'

you might mention to them that the song "Call me the Breeze" was actually written by JJ Cale.

btw, i think if you narrow the pic a bit it would be a lot easier to read this post.

#4491....


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 Bish
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Thanks, TL. I'll work on the pix.

Bish

"I play live as playing dead is harder than it sounds!"


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Things have a habit of working themselves out, Bish - your karma must be good! I hope you get time to work on your original material, though - let's face it, everyone wants to hear their own songs recorded or played, don't they!

:D :D :D

Vic

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I like these stories. They make me feel good. :D


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Great story Bish! :D I'm glad things are working themselves out for you. You're a good guy and a great part of GN! Can't wait to hear some more of your music bro. 8)

Dan

"The only way I know that guarantees no mistakes is not to play and that's simply not an option". David Hodge


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Great read Bish. Thanks for taking the time. :D

I might as well take this opportunity to also thank you for the inspiration I've got from you here as well. I've always enjoyed the sense of humour in your posts, and your lack of preciousness about both your drumming and guitar playing. And I'd like to learn to be a drummer too. I'm about to attempt to do just a tiny bit of what you can do by having a crack at learning some basic drums at long last. We have a modest drumkit in the family and I have a Teach Yourself book and CD. I just ain't put the time in yet..

I'd like to be able to slowly build up simple home written song tracks, starting with some basic drumming, adding some bass, and so on. And the drums pretty much need to be the foundation of the exercise. After reading your post I've just dug out the book and resolved to get on with the job.

All the best with the band. 8) 8)

Off to do some reading and hitting now... :)

Cheers,

Chris


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Wow, thats a pretty good song list! You guys look like you play a lot of gigs, looks like it keeps you busy The sound sample souned really good :D

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Bish

I can remember replying to one of threads it was about the band and I said

" When one door closes another opens " that may have been a little while ago but I see this door opening is alot better than the door that closed ..

Very impressive song list

Trev

Here is to you as good as you are
And here is to me as bad as I am
As good as you are and as bad as I am
I'm as good as you are as bad as I am


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 Bish
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Thank you everyone, for the kind responses.

Chris....if you have any need for guidance on drumming, feel free to call on me anytime.

Trev, you were correct, my friend.

Bish

"I play live as playing dead is harder than it sounds!"


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That was a good read! I did go to the Dani Lynn Howe Band site via your link. There's no mention of anyone in the band but her! Does she have an ego? Just wondering.

"Nothing...can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts."


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Chris....if you have any need for guidance on drumming, feel free to call on me anytime.

Thanks very much for such a generous offer Bish. :) It's going to take me a while to work through the basics in the book, and get some sort of practice happening. But if I get stuck along the way, it would be great to be able to run things past somebody who really does know what he's doing. Thanks. 8)


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Thanks for the inspiring words, Bish. It's good to see your perseverance pay off in a world that typically expects immediate gratification.

:)


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Now thats impressive!!!!!!! I have this feeling in my gut, your dream will come true, just a felling i have bish, and i can't think of a guy that deserves
it more 8) :D

even god loves rock-n-roll


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Looking at the song list makes me realise what a huge task it must have been stepping into the last drummer's shoes - I don't know all that many songs from the list, and most of the ones I do know are the more rock-oriented and crossover hits. Add me to the "IMPRESSED!" list...hard enough to play along with songs you do know, never mind songs you've never heard before!

A question, Bish - how do you approach learning a new song? (In the context of the DLH band.) Do you try and play the song the way the band think it should be played - do they give you some ideas of what goes where? Or do they play and you try to fill in the blanks, so to speak? Do you try and stamp some of your personality on the song? I don't mean throwing in solos every few seconds, I mean do you suggest things like "I think this'd sound good here...." - it must be difficult stepping into an established band, they've been playing those songs a long time, and even if none of the other members know their way around a drum kit, they must have some idea what goes where - especially the rhythm and bass players, who probably take their cues from the drummer.

:D :D :D

Vic

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