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(@blueline)
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There are also times where an artist will use a line, to pay respect to the original artist. A tip of the hat if you will. IMO, the Lemon song is all about paying respects to the old blue's men. I once heard Plant say in an interview that he ..."was just some white kid trying to sing the blues."

Now, when you talk about rap and hip hop, its a toooootaly different ball game brother.

Teamwork- A few harmless flakes working together can unleash an avalanche of destruction.


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(@dogbite)
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Actually, I play secret notes that no one has ever heard of and only I can play.
ghost notes, as in ghost chords.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=644552
http://www.soundclick.com/couleerockinvaders


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(@wes-inman)
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Many times a band or artist will include the music or lyrics from another artist to pay tribute to them.

At the end of T. Rex's Bang a Gong (Get It On) Marc Bolan sings, "Well, meanwhile, I'm still thinkin'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdbSDOn7dNU&feature=related

This song was a tribute to Chuck Berry's Little Queenie, where Chuck says this line several times. However he alterted it just a little, Chuck never said this exact line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Be_ioAYtU

I love Chuck Berry in this song, he had a real knack for entertaining a crowd.

If you know something better than Rock and Roll, I'd like to hear it - Jerry Lee Lewis


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(@blueline)
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Many times a band or artist will include the music or lyrics from another artist to pay tribute from them.

At the end of T. Rex's Bang a Gong (Get It On) Marc Bolan sings, "And meanwhile, I was still thinkin'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19IqwU3itFk&feature=related

This song was a tribute to Chuck Berry's Little Queenie, where Chuck says this line several times. This is one cool song. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Be_ioAYtU

Chuck Berry had a real knack for being entertaining when he sang, this is a great example.

Excelent example.
I guess another form of that would be (to stay with my Zeppelin theme) writing an entire song about something that inspired you. In "Ramble On" LZ is paying tribute to J.R.R. Tolkien. Kinda off track of the thread but close.

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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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How about writing a whole song using other people's titles? British band Barclay James Harvest did that back in the late 70's. I had to look up the lyrics to refresh my memory.....

Titles - Barclay James Harvest

The long and winding road that leads to your door
Here comes the sun it's alright people shout for more
But were you trying to deceive telling me
All you need is love to succeed
Across the universe one after nine 'o' nine
I got a feeling for you blue and I feel fine
I tried so hard to make believe that I'd see
All you need is love to succeed

CHORUS:

Lady Madonna let it be
Something in the way you moved me yesterday
All you need is love so they say

So - is that either A - a nice tribute to your musical heroes, or B - unbelievably crass and twee, and pass the sick-bucket, please? I know which side of the fence I'm on......

:D :D :D

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)


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(@wes-inman)
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Well Vic, I have no idea what "twee" means, but that was definitely twee. :D

Hey Vic, you told me a long time ago you are in an old T. Rex video. Which one? I can't remember.

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(@the-dali)
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How about writing a whole song using other people's titles? British band Barclay James Harvest did that back in the late 70's. I had to look up the lyrics to refresh my memory.....

Titles - Barclay James Harvest

The long and winding road that leads to your door
Here comes the sun it's alright people shout for more
But were you trying to deceive telling me
All you need is love to succeed
Across the universe one after nine 'o' nine
I got a feeling for you blue and I feel fine
I tried so hard to make believe that I'd see
All you need is love to succeed

CHORUS:

Lady Madonna let it be
Something in the way you moved me yesterday
All you need is love so they say

So - is that either A - a nice tribute to your musical heroes, or B - unbelievably crass and twee, and pass the sick-bucket, please? I know which side of the fence I'm on......

:D :D :D

Vic

That is definitely an original use of other people's work! I love it! That is genius!!! I now need to find a recording on the Internet....

-=- Steve

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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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Well Vic, I have no idea what "twee" means, but that was definitely twee. :D

Hey Vic, you told me a long time ago you are in an old T. Rex video. Which one? I can't remember.

It was a live video of "Jeepster" - I was right near the front, and though I was only 14 at the time (and should definitely not have been there!) I was over 6' tall even then, pretty skinny, with a haircut known as a feather-cut. Just look for someone who's head and shoulders above the rest of the crowd......and grinning like an idiot, it was the first time I'd ever had more than half-a-pint of beer. I was going to add "and dancing in a very un-coordinated manner" but it was the 70's, after all, and so was everyone else....

I know I've got that particular video clip on a VHS tape - it used to be on VH1 all the time - but I've no idea how to convert it to DVD format, or upload it to youtube.....

:D :D :D

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)


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(@rparker)
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Gonna have to search that one out. Gotta see the young Vic. 8)

Here's my only concert moment, and it's nothing in comparison to yours. I caught the pic that he tosses out at the 3:24 mark of this video clib on You Tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8xNt3k57CM The video sucks. It was one of those cell phone shots most likely. Also caught a Foreigner pic that night. Impressive toss. He flung it from about 60 feet away and frisbeed until it hit someone near me and fell to my feet. The Def Lep was simply 4 seats back and it hit me. Never saw it. Wife did. She was screaming before I realized what happened.

Roy
"I wonder if a composer ever intentionally composed a piece that was physically impossible to play and stuck it away to be found years later after his death, knowing it would forever drive perfectionist musicians crazy." - George Carlin


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(@ricochet)
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Here's a video. Not sure I can pick out the young Vic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukpoN3uRkU

"A cheerful heart is good medicine."


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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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Here's a video. Not sure I can pick out the young Vic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukpoN3uRkU

Well you wouldn't - that video was filmed in '72. The concert I was at was in July or August 71....it was used on Top Of The Pops when "Jeepster" was played, and that would be about October or November '71.

Still searching.......

:D :D :D

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)


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(@rparker)
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Don't know if this is the one or not, but it sure is a treat to watch. :D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCxZ-5LudL8&feature=related

Roy
"I wonder if a composer ever intentionally composed a piece that was physically impossible to play and stuck it away to be found years later after his death, knowing it would forever drive perfectionist musicians crazy." - George Carlin


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(@megalomaniac)
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Many times a band or artist will include the music or lyrics from another artist to pay tribute from them.

At the end of T. Rex's Bang a Gong (Get It On) Marc Bolan sings, "And meanwhile, I was still thinkin'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19IqwU3itFk&feature=related

This song was a tribute to Chuck Berry's Little Queenie, where Chuck says this line several times. This is one cool song. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Be_ioAYtU

Chuck Berry had a real knack for being entertaining when he sang, this is a great example.

Excelent example.
I guess another form of that would be (to stay with my Zeppelin theme) writing an entire song about something that inspired you. In "Ramble On" LZ is paying tribute to J.R.R. Tolkien. Kinda off track of the thread but close.
thats a good point about so to say writing something about something of the sort that has inspired you
i guess it would be more of a paying respects to like what was stated above sort of deal rather then stealing
you've opened my eyes to yet another view of this
time to write a song!

and the other things a couple posts above, thats really neat how you some of you guy's have memories attached to these old video's, what a memory it must be
i'm totally jealous
:)


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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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Don't know if this is the one or not, but it sure is a treat to watch. :D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCxZ-5LudL8&feature=related

Ah, Pan's People - the subject of most schoolboys' fantasy back in the old days. And more than a few adults too, I suspect! Along with football, and pop groups, I suspect they were also the subjects of quite a few arguments - you could take the mick out of someone's football team or favourite pop group, but never, ever diss his favourite dancer!

The dancing was dreadful, the clothes worse - and yet - there was something about them everyone liked. I never could put my finger on it......

Vic

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(@boogie)
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I was listening to some Elvis Presley today. A song named "Baby, Let's Play House" comes on and while I'm bopping along, I hear the line:

I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man

I say to myself, I know that line. It's in a Beatles song: "Run For Your Life"

A few minutes of research turns this up.


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