Well, no, not really - but what I do hate is the fact that I want to play a lot of his guitar riffs, and I can't. My acoustic's been in open D for a couple of weeks - so I thought I'd look up the tab for Kashmir and give that a try. Turns out it's not in open D, it's in DADGAD. So I retune the 3rd string. Holy fretboard, Batman....how the hell do you get that stretch with your pinky on the A string (in DADGAD) at the fifth fret, and your index finger on the G string at the second fret, moving it up a fret at a time, till you have to move your index finger to where the pinky was and put your pinky on the G string at the 7th fret?
Then you have to move the whole shebang back to the position you started with.....
Well, it's got these fingers beat. Then you have to go up to the 12th fret and it gets even more complicated.....
Man, he's written some great riffs and licks and so on - but why does he have to make it so bloody hard for the beginner, or the intermediate, or even the reasonably decent guitarist?
He's a bloody show-off, is what he is! Is there such a thing as an easy Led Zep song?
:D :D :D
Vic
"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)
I can't stand Jimmy Page but that aside. You are talking about this riff here right?D|----------------------------------------------------------------------------
A|----------------------------------------------------------------------------
G|--2---2---2------2---2---2-------3---3---3------3---3---3-------------------
D|--0---0---0------0---0---0-------0---0---0------0---0---0-------------------
A|--5---5---5------5---5---5-------5---5---5------5---5---5-------------------
D|-----------------------------0------------------------------0---------------
D|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
A|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
G|--4---4---4------4---4---4-------5---5---5------5---5---5------------------
D|--0---0---0------0---0---0-------0---0---0------0---0---0------------------
A|--5---5---5------5---5---5-------5---5---5------5---5---5------------------
D|-----------------------------0------------------------------0--------------
D|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
A|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
G|--7---7---7------2---2---2-------3---3---3---------------------------------
D|--0---0---0------0---0---0-------0---0---0---repeat------------------------
A|--5---5---5------5---5---5-------5---5---5---------------------------------
D|-----------------------------0---------------------------------------------
I play it how you are describing but don't move my index finger up. I basically go with my index on the second fret G string, then middle 3rd fret then ring 4th fret. Then I switch to index 5th fret on the a string and ring on the G string. Leaving my index finger where it is I put my pinky down on the 7th fret G string. Also, you can have your index finger down on the A string second fret after you are done strumming the first chord. That way you can just slide it to the 5th fret.
He's a bloody show-off, is what he is! Is there such a thing as an easy Led Zep song?
Kashmir is pretty easy for me. The only time I have trouble is when it goes into power chords I can't get the timing down.
"In what, twisted universe does mastering Eddie Van Halen's two handed arpeggio technique count as ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?!" - Dr Gregory House
.how the hell do you get that stretch with your pinky on the A string (in DADGAD) at the fifth fret, and your index finger on the G string at the second fret, moving it up a fret at a time, till you have to move your index finger to where the pinky was and put your pinky on the G string at the 7th fret?
wimp.
:lol:
"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."
Thanks, Mitch, I really needed that.
OK, I'm off to listen to the Osmonds on youtube. See if I can work out "Love Me For A Reason."
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Vic the sad and pathetically inadequate.
"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)
Sorry Vic, just ribbing you. 8)
Watch how this 10-year old shaggy-haired kid does it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brBytMvM8N4&feature=related
Or this stringy-haired dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0U62Ym5Dkc&feature=related
Couple ways to do it.
"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."
I see your Jimmi Page and raise you a Jimi Hendrix.
what interesting constructions he made.
You know, I'm going to go on record and say this...
Almost everything Jimmy Page played was sloppy. Even his recorded stuff. Cool riffs and solos, but sloppy technique.
Incoming flames, lol
You know, I'm going to go on record and say this...
Almost everything Jimmy Page played was sloppy. Even his recorded stuff. Cool riffs and solos, but sloppy technique.
Incoming flames, lol
Assuming this is true, it would then make one wonder how important precision technique really is in the big picture of entertainment value.
V'ic, I hear ya man. Gotta be especially bad with the finger injuries you've sustained. I ain't done none of that and still can't do a 4 fret spread.
Roy
"I wonder if a composer ever intentionally composed a piece that was physically impossible to play and stuck it away to be found years later after his death, knowing it would forever drive perfectionist musicians crazy." - George Carlin
You know, I'm going to go on record and say this...
Almost everything Jimmy Page played was sloppy. Even his recorded stuff. Cool riffs and solos, but sloppy technique.
Incoming flames, lol
I'd LOVE to be that sloppy! In fact, in future, when anyone asks me what I want to achieve playing guitar, I think I'll put on a slightly haughty look and say, "I aspire to sloppiness!"
:D :D :D
Vic
"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)
Hang on Vic. You will surely find a bustle in your hedgerow soon... :mrgreen:
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Vic the sad and pathetically inadequate.
Don't let it bring you down Vic, remember there's always a train at the end of the tunnel..... :twisted:
Just dont let that train hit ya! :lol:
You know, I'm going to go on record and say this...
Almost everything Jimmy Page played was sloppy. Even his recorded stuff. Cool riffs and solos, but sloppy technique.
Incoming flames, lol
I'd LOVE to be that sloppy! In fact, in future, when anyone asks me what I want to achieve playing guitar, I think I'll put on a slightly haughty look and say, "I aspire to sloppiness!"
:D :D :D
Vic
Yeah, Page has been rightfully accused of mucho sloppy playing (by me as well). But this was my Page epiphany: He can get away with some muffed notes for two reasons: Great riff writing (obvious) and solid timing/phrasing. Were his timing and phrasing not good -- and in truth, exceptional, he would have brought down the LZ musos trio pretty quickly. (assumption: ignore some of the probable alcohol/drug-addled performances)
-=tension & release=-
I WOULD ignore the drunk or stoned performances, but the truth is, he played better on those particular days than I actually dream about playing on my best days.....shows how far I've still got to go. Drunk, stoned or on autopilot, pound-for-pound, JP's still the most incredibly talented guitarist I've ever heard. Yes, there are other guitarists - but there aren't many who've covered as many different genres as JP, and sounded good in all of them!
He may not be the greatest guitarist of all time, though that's negotiable - but for me, he's the most versatile great guitarist of all time!
:D :D :D
Vic
"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)
I'm a big fan of Jimmy Page, although I agree that he was "sloppy".
I definitely agree with Vic, the fact that he could play almost anything from straight blues, rock, funk and everything in between in a million different tunings is just mind-blowing. Not to mention he was a producer on almost all of Led Zeppelin's records: he's responsible for that booming drum track on "When the Levee Breaks", one of my favorite songs. That kind of talent is extremely rare.
Steve-0