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(@shaggy)
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Is this worth it? For pictures, check out the eBay auction here.

I might be interested in making an investment and purchasing this if I could resell it for more individually. His asking price is $170,000. Says it will fit in a 20' container for shipping overseas. Here's a list of everything in the auction. Let me know what you think!

GIBSON

( 1961) 355 STD STEREO 2 PAF, cherry color w case
( 1961) LES PAUL SG CUSTOM 3 PAF,white color w case
( 1966) EB2 BASS cherry color w case
( 1976) LES PAUL 3 PICK UP black color w case
( 1963) EB0 BASS cherry color w/original case

VOX
( 1964) AC 100 amp and cabinet
( 1968) SUPER BEATLE amp and cabinet
( 1966) AC 50 FOUNDATION amp and cabinet
( 1968) WESTMINSTER amp and cab
( 1966) AC 30 orig 220 v.
( 1968) KENSINGTON combo amp
( 1964) CONTINENTAL organ made in ITALY w VOX stand

FENDER
( 1963) JAZZMASTER sunburst color w case
( 1962) JAGUAR fiesta red color w case
( 1963) BASS VI sunburst color w case
( 1961) JAZZ BASS sunburst color w case
( 1995) STRATOCASTER reissue fiesta red w case
( 1995) PRECISION BASS reissue fiesta red w case
( 1995) TELECASTER reissue fiesta red w case
( 1968) DUAL SHOWMAN amp and cabinet w JBL speakers
( 1966) BANDMASTER amp and cabinet w JBL speakers
( 1966) FENDER REVERB tan color

BURNS
( 1962) BLACK BISON guitar 3 pick up black color w case
( 1962) BLACK BISON bass black color w case
( 1966) BABY BISON guitar red color w case
( 1966) BABY BISON bass red color w case
( 1964) BURNS SPLITSOUND guitar red color w case
( 1967) BURNS BALDWIN 12 guitar sunburst color w case
( 1964) ORBIT 6 combo amp
( 1964) ORBIT 3 combo amp
( 1965) ORBIT 3 combo amp
( 1968) BALDWIN PROFESSIONAL combo amp

GRETSCH
( 1968) 6120 CHET ATKINS NASHVILLE orange color w case

AMPEQ
( 1964) PORTAFLEX B-18 N bass amp

FRAMUS
( 1959) TRIUMPH UPRIGHT ELECTRIC BASS gold color w case
( 1965) FRAMUS STRATO model 3 pick up red color w case
( 1966) FRAMUS JAGUAR model 3 pick up red color w case
( 1966) FRAMUS JAGUAR model 3 pick up sunburst color w case
( 1965) FRAMUS JAZZMASTER model 2 pick up sunburst color w case
( 1965) FRAMUS JAZZBASS sunburst color w case

HOFNER
( 1964) HOFNER 173 guitar 3 pick up red color w case
( 1964) HOFNER 173 bass red color w case
( 1965) HOFNER 175 guitar 3 pick up red color w case

OVATION
( 1976) CUSTOM LEGEND sunburst color w case
( 1976) CUSTOM LEGEND 12 sunburst color w case

ROLAND
( 1984) RD 1000 PIANO w ROLAND stand and pedal
( 1986) RD-300S Digital piano

LINN
( 1984) LINN DRUM 2 Drum machine
( 1985) LINN 9000 Drum machine

OBERHEIM
( 1985) DMX Drum machine

BINSON
( 1964) ECHOREC 2 mod T7E
( 1962) ECHOREC BABY model
( 1964) PRE MIXER ECHO 4 channels mod PA 4MN
( 1962) Complete PA system include
ECHOREC 2
PRE MIXER ECHO 6 channels mod PA 6MN
2 POWER AMP BINSON tube 60 watt each
1 POWER AMP BINSON tube 40 watt
2 CABINET BINSON model C20I
1 CABINET BINSON bass reflex model C20C
( 1974) Complete PA system include
ECHOREC P.E.603-T
2 PRE MIXER ECHO 8 channels mod P.A. 602
2 POWER AMP BINSON tube model P.O.601-200 WATT
1 POWER AMP BINSON tube model P.O.601-100 WATT
1 POWER REGULATOR BINSON model P.V.604 1000 WATT

SEMPRINI
( 1970) STEREOPHON ECHO MIXER 707/6 channels
( 1970) TUBE AMPLIFIER ST 280 80 WATT
( 1972) STEREOPHONE ECHO MIXER 707/6S 6 channels
( 1972) TUBE AMPLIFIER ST 280/20-M 80watt+ 20 watt monitor
( 1970) 2 CABINET SEMPRINI 200 watt each

MONTARBO SISME
( 1970) PA SYSTEM model 126 200+200 watt ,solid state 8 channels , ECHO
( 1970) 2 CABINET MONTARBO- SISME 200 Watt each

S A E
( 1983) C101 cassette recorder, T101 tuner, P101 preamp, E101 equalizer, A501 Power amplifier
( 1984) D102 cd player, C102 cassette recorder, T102 tuner, P102 preamp, E102 equalizer, A 502 Power amp.


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(@kent_eh)
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What's anything really worth?

If you were to put in some effort, you could get probably your money back eventually, maybe even turn a profit...

If everything is in as good a shape as he says.
If you could find the right buyer for each piece
If you're not in a hurry to sell everything.

Here's the list of guitars that Gruhn's has for sale. It's a starting point for you to figure a value of this collection.
Of course, those are full retail asking prices. No guarantee that's what they'll end up selling for. Or when they'll sell.

While you decide if you want to do this, keep in mind that Gruhn's is one of the best known guitar shops in the country. The collectors know to look there for a unique instrument.
They don't know who you are, or how to find you.

I wrapped a newspaper ’round my head
So I looked like I was deep


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(@dogbite)
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the whole lot? are you going to starrt a music shop?

my best advice is to inspect everything personally.

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(@nicktorres)
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I agree, that's a lot of money to take anything on faith.


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(@blueline)
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No idea if it is worth it. For me, the more compleling question is WHY? Like DB said, are you going to start a music shop? What will you do with all of this?

Teamwork- A few harmless flakes working together can unleash an avalanche of destruction.


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(@guitar_guy)
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I agree, I'd want to inspect things with that amount of money involved...

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(@unimogbert)
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Not only would I want to inspect it all but I'd like to see how it's packed when it's packed for shipping. Dumping it down the chute into a 20' dumpster wouldn't do the equipment much good. And the container handling might matter depending on whether the door seal is watertight and whether it's going to sit out in the sun at some equatorial storage yard.....

For that much money you should fly there and do the deal in person. (unless $170k is chump change to you - then you can hire "people" to do it for you.)

Unimogbert
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 Ande
(@ande)
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You sure as heck can't play them all. :-)

So unless you've just always wanted a room full of equipment, and can now afford it...

As an investment, I can think of a fair few things that you could put $170K in that would turn a surer profit with less work in less time, and probably more profit. As an investment, buying a collection that's already collected is almost always a loser. You could probably get your money back and a bit, but the time you'd spend, and wait, without being sure, are just a real disadvantage from a money point of view. What about insurance for warehousing it all? Where would you keep it, anyway? Floods, fires, acts of god? Humidity? Theft? How housebroken is your dog? Got teenagers who might like to crank some of it up for a party?

If you want it as an investment, it wouldn't be hard to get something better, even with the state of most markets today.

If you want it as a collection of vintage guitars, I would really look around and buy one at a time. Collect a collection, so to speak, rather than buying one. There's probably more earning (over time) in doing it that way anyway. And much less risk, because you don't drop $170K to get in. I don't know what the various pieces in that collection are worth. At the moment, it seems that neither do you. So if you buy now, there will be surprises. I'd go slow and try to get to know the field and the market, an instrument at a time, rather than all at once.

Best,
Ande

PS- Sensible advice from a guy who doesn't have $170K to worry about, and isn't gonna. You earned it, you decide!


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(@the-dali)
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That is wacked. That's all I can say here...

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(@the-dali)
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FYI, based on 75 items you would need to AVERAGE $2,300 per item to break even.

-=- Steve

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(@slejhamer)
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What has changed on ebay that his feedback score is 100% positive and yet there are two negative feedback hits on the first page?

Including this one: "Sold broken PA and took no responsibility."

Caveat emptor ...

"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."


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 cnev
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the more I read this post and see that you had asked about a $600,000 guitar in another post makes me think that you maybe you aren't looking to really buy this but are just trying to get some PR on this stuff, maybe you are really the seller?

otherwise I would say your whack for even considering it.

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(@blueline)
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the more I read this post and see that you had asked about a $600,000 guitar in another post makes me think you that maybe you aren't looking to really buy this but are just trying to get some PR on this stuff, maybe you are really the seller?

otherwise I would say your whack for even considering it.
+100

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(@nicktorres)
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Interesting scheme.

If you look at the actual link instead of clicking on it, you'll see it goes to rover dot ebay dot com

That is an affiliate link. So if you were to shell out that kind of money, shaggy would get a cut.

What will they think of next?


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(@kent_eh)
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Interesting scheme.

If you look at the actual link instead of clicking on it, you'll see it goes to rover dot ebay dot com

That is an affiliate link. So if you were to shell out that kind of money, shaggy would get a cut.
As is every e-bay link he's posted.
Cute game.

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So I looked like I was deep


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