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(@hueseph)
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This guy is probably THE premier flamenco guitarist in the world right now. He's just amazing. Check the video. The thing that get's on my nerves is: how dare he play that well and sport that cheese eating grin on his face! He makes me want to cut off my hands and burn my guitars. :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UelQSMmW074&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BCoZiSbGtY&feature=related

The first clip is from the movie Flamenco! A great movie which will either inspire you or make you want burn all your guitars.

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(@rparker)
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Similar music. I like these guys a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6mwKG8FOAw

Roy
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 Nuno
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As you probably know, flamenco it isn't one of my favorite styles of music and I don't know enough about it. But, yes, Tomatito is a great player. He has played with/for the better and most important cantaores, Camarón, for example. Here is a soleares, I hope you like it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sobbzaIa4_E

There are several videos of the same concert. They play other palos but probably this is my favorite.

Roy, that is rumba, usually it is not considered as real flamenco but it is. It is something that people play in the street and such. The rhythm is always the same, you can sing a lot of different songs with a rumba rhythm, even not original rumbas. For example... and I'M VERY SORRY for the link... I know I'm losing part of my credit here (if I have it!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqW2ZjpW6M


   
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(@rparker)
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Thanks for the education Nuno! I didn't really know what was what. I just knew I liked them.

Here's another example of a cover that I really like, but didn't get turned on to until recently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufc7Z76ko1Q

Roy
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(@hueseph)
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I actually can't stand the Gypsy Kings. They're a pop band. I've never really been one for pop. To me they're like the band that sold out their heritage.

Notice that the rhythm is the same regardless of the song? It's far too formulaic.

Strangely, Flamenco is based around strict "formulas" but somehow traditional flamenco players and even innovators like Tomatito are able to incorporate variance. Notice with musicians like Serrano, De Lucia, Sabicas, Paco Pena there is often only one guitarist playing rhythm, percussion and melody and sometimes involving very intricate counterpoint.

Check out this video of a very young Sabicas. His technique is incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZD5i4STrGY&feature=related

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Check out this video of a very young Sabicas. His technique is incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZD5i4STrGY&feature=related

Very impressive indeed.

Roy
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(@hueseph)
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Don't get me wrong. I fully understand the appeal of The Gypsy Kings and other popular flamenco-ish groups. Vive les Difference.

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Yes, indeed! Always is the same rhythm. But Roy, here there is a lot of rumba fans! In fact there are several "regional" rumbas. The father of rumba catalana is Peret. Here is a video, circa 1960:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBwtSg2Kl-8

And Estopa, two brothers, very famous currently in Spain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLqhT443J90

(Hueseph, thanks for that video!)


   
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