Hi,
The last time we had this assignment ( Year 3 Wk 18 )
I wrote about a Transsexual Army Major/War Hero
who as a man shared my name.
This time I was intrigued by the number of different
people that I share a name with.
Basketball Player
Wheelchair Table Tennis Champ
Actors (2)
Saint
Politicians (3 one of them Lord Mayor of Dublin in the 17th century)
Doctor
Author
Realtor
Poets (2)
Private Investigator
Golfer
Various Musicians ( Guitar - Piano - Vocalist... )
Professor
Lawyer
Financier/ Film Produce
and let's not forget the Major
Anyways that gave me the first two line of the chorus
and everything else worked off that.
Musically think of Lou Reed's Sweet Jane and
you'll be close.
Saints and Sinners
Living in this pageant
Where every actor plays a part
Poets write of one true love
Songs all end with broken hearts
Sometimes saints and sinners
Go by the same name
Sometimes you can't tell what's true
As lovers play a losing game
Ridicule and anger
Always suffering this pain
Memories of the bitter tears
Won't save your soul on judgement day
Sometimes saints and sinners
Go by the same name
Sometimes you can't tell what's true
As lovers play a losing game
As beginnings turn into endings
Would it matter if they had no start
The passion was it all a dream in disguise
What was it tore our love apart
Sometimes saints and sinners
Go by the same name
Sometimes you can't tell what's true
As lovers play a losing game
Sometimes saints and sinners
Only get to share the blame
Sometimes you can't tell what's true
As lovers play a losing game
As lovers play a losing game
John Roche
Wow, I'd say the writer is very pessimestic about love. LOL But Ive read alot of your other stuff so I know its not you feeling this.
I had to read it twice. I didnt get why the "lovers were playing a losing game" I also didnt understand what that had to do with Saints and Sinners.
The lovers part I figured out pretty quick, its in the first verse and I magically skipped over it. S&S I am still not sure about other than it ties it to the idea that two people sharing the same name can be both the good part of society and the bad part which I find totally intriquing.
I always love your imagery but I cant wait to hear how this one sounds. Its a tough one to analyze for me.
Good work though. I always like your work.
Geoo
“The hardest thing in life is to know which bridge to cross and which to burn” - David Russell (Scottish classical Guitarist. b.1942)
Hey, I think I get it, it's saying your never certain of who it is you fall in love with right?
I like it.
Keep it up :D
"Like the coldest winter chill. Heaven beside you. Hell within." -Jerry Cantrell
Hi John,
I have a sneaking suspicion that this song started out with an idea in mind and it developed into something else. If I'm wrong I apologize now. Having said that I do like it :D , but I feel that the first verse belongs to another song (see above). For me this song is about a married couple and how the marriage has deteriorated, and in that context I don't think you need the first verse. I could be wrong of course (Heaven forbid). Good song though
Cheers
Paul
hi
wish I could offer something to your song ..
Sorry I just love reading it I copied it on to a word document and took it to work and just read it over and over ..( hope you don't mind )
I just love the ending
Last verse then that one line , but it's not just the last verse either if you know where I'm coming from ( lost for words )
So I'll just say love it need to hear it ( demand lol) :lol:
Great writting
Hilch :?:
Here is to you as good as you are
And here is to me as bad as I am
As good as you are and as bad as I am
I'm as good as you are as bad as I am
And the winner is Pbee.:lol:
I thought I was going to write a long explanation
for this but he hit it right on the money. Thanks
Yes this did start as something different. I was going
to see how much of the list I could use to write a song .
The saints and sinners lines came first and the chorus
ended with a line about lawyers placing blame.
This sounded forced but made me think that the song
was about divorce so I worked off that.
I took a look at the first verse and think maybe the song
would work better if the first and last verses were switched.
Any thoughts on that idea?
Thanks Everybody for your comments.
John
Id like thank my producer ...... and director ....... blah blah blah and finally of course the Academy without which none of this would be possible :D
But seriously, I think Id either drop verse 1 altogether or (preferred option) rewite it to focus more on the theme of the rest of the song. Maybe something like this:
Living in this pageant
Where every actor plays a part
Some Poets write of one true love
And some songs end with broken hearts
by implication the "some songs" is this song
cheers
Paul
Thanks Paul,
I like the idea of using "some" and I still
am thinking about making the last instead
first verse.
John
:lol: This song could be about Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader.
Great song Celt.
:D
"If I had a time machine, I'd go back and tell me to practise that bloody guitar!" -Vic Lewis
Everything is 42..... again.
Magic MP3 John magic
Love the mood of the vocals
Awesome mate
Well bloody done
HiLcH :?:
Here is to you as good as you are
And here is to me as bad as I am
As good as you are and as bad as I am
I'm as good as you are as bad as I am
Im with Hilch, nice mp3 :D
The only thing I would do differently is change the chord structure at this verse
As beginnings turn into endings ......
just to put a contrast in there.
Well done John
cheers
Paul
