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 Kr1s
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I feel it's time I learned how to read music correctly. I have been on the site reading article 'Fretboard 101 part 1' trying to make some sense out of it. The things I am struggling with mainly consist of imagining the notes on the treble cleff staff, main reason being I am not sure how to say where they are located. I understand I can say that low E is located 3 ledger lines below the staff, but how do I say where the notes are located within the staff itsel? Hope this makes sense to someone.

My main reson for learning this as well is to become more familiar with all the notes on the fretboard, if anyone knows or can locate me to an article which can help me with this also i'll be eternally greatfull.

Thanks, Kris


   
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I have a free standard notation tutorial at http://www.guitarforbeginners.com/forum/fretsources-lessons/9731-standard-music-notation/ - that you might find useful...

And don't worry about giving unique descriptor names to the lines and spaces - nobody else does. :D

If necessary, you can always say "the second bottom line" or "the space under the top line" or the "F line". But there aren't many occasions where you have to call them anything (unlike the notes that appear on them).


   
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the lines: FACE
the spaces between the lines EGBDF (or Every Good Boy Does Fine).
are wondering where on the fret board the notes would be found?

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the lines: FACE
the spaces between the lines EGBDF (or Every Good Boy Does Fine).
are wondering where on the fret board the notes would be found?

That's the wrong way round, Dogbite - The spaces are FACE, not the lines.

Anyway, I don't think that will help Kris, much. He wants a way to describe any particular line or space. Some note names within the staff can be found on both a line AND a space. So he would have to say, for example, "The note G is located on the second bottom line" . I agree though that the "Every boy..." and FACE thing can be useful in the early stages to remember what the notes on the lines and spaces are - If only it didn't remind me of school and 'whole class' recorder practice so much, I might be more warmly disposed towards it. :lol:


   
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 Kr1s
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Thank you both. I was thinking of saying the second line up and the like but to picture that in my head laong with the note I am playing could be confusing to begin with. I will have to stick at that and hopefully it will become easier for me to read.


   
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Actually, it sounds like you're going about it the wrong way - like you're trying to learn all the notes at once.
To really learn sight reading you should first get to know the 'natural' notes on the lines and spaces string by string. Every sight reading course Ive ever seen, introduces you first to the 'natural' notes within the first three frets of the first string then, when you know them, you incorporate the notes of the second second string (same 3 frets) and by the time you've included to the third string you can play lots of real melodies - simple, but musical. And so on.

You CAN learn them all at once - but in most cases that I've seen, not as thoroughly as doing it gradually and intensely. If you're not yet completely familiar with all the notes within the 5 lines of the staff, you shouldn't even be thinking about which notes lie on leger lines.


   
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 Kr1s
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I see what you are saying but I am not trying to learn all of the notes straight off. Here is the article I am reading at the moment, well have read, might give you a bit more of an insight as to what I am getting at.

https://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=285


   
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Thanks for that. I hadn't ever seen that method before, which looks like it's Nick's original. I can only assume it works well, given the high quality of all his other music tuition/ guidance, etc. that I've seen.


   
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I love this site. I bring up a weak and shady memory and it is promptly corrected in a positive manner.
thanks for not flaming. thanks Fretsource. your avatar is so accurate. you and Noteboat. I am not worthy.
FACE EGBDF...lines and spaces. it has been a long while.
when I get home I am going to dig out my sheet reading how to book and refresh,.

I think it important that everyone learn at least one song from reading.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=644552
http://www.soundclick.com/couleerockinvaders


   
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 Kr1s
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No worries fretsource, I feel slightly dumb asking questions on this forum when the site is full of so much information, yet if it's hard to understand and you need help with specific things I guess it's ok.


   
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