I've just recently started taking lessons and we're working through major and pentatonic scales. My question relates to chord formations that require notes that fall outside of the 7 positions of a scale. (add 9, add 11 for example.) Where are these positions and how do I find them? For example, what would the 9th position of a C Major scale be?
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They don't fall outside of the scale, the cycle back round, so a 9th is the same as a 2nd and a 13th is the same as a 6th.
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Thanks! Is there a reason why it's not just called add2 or add4?
Because add2, etc, justs adds the 2nd to a basic chord (a Cadd2 is C, E, G, D - the 2nd). A 9th takes a basic chord plus 7th and 9th (C9 would be C, E, G, B, D). A 13th would take a 7th, a 9th, an 11th and a 13th - C, E, G, B, D, F, A - (this is impossible on a guitar so some of these notes can either be left out or be passed to other players - e.g. the bass - to "fill out" the chord)
If you go to my site (in my sig), you'll see tables laying the various formats out for you.
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Thanks for your help. I'll check out your pages.
Traditional Western harmony is also called Tertiary harmony, because chords are built in thirds. If you wanted more notes than a 7th chord, you'd keep going in thirds: 1-3-5-7-9. The notes would be (for Cmaj7) C, E, G, B, D.
The fact that the 9th is a D doesn't make it any different in sound than the 2nd - it's just the way we build chords. That D might be in the same octave as the C, the octave higher, or even in the octave lower - and it'd still be Cmaj9
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yes the 2nd,4th and 6th notes become the 9th,11th and 13th
so -> 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 gives you the seventh chord (1 3 5 7) plus the 9,11,13 extensions which of course may be altered depending on what chord scale you are building the chord from (1 3 5 7 9 11 13 would be Ionian -- whereas 1 b3 5 7 9 11 13 would be melodic minor)
and like noteboat said it doesn't matter where the extension is in the voicing (that's a common misunderstanding) - if a 7th interval is present in your chord voicing then the 2nd,4th and 6th become the 9th,11th and 13th or in an add9 chord or 6/9 chord the third is present in an add9 chord so it can't be a sus2 chord and in the 6/9 chord also it can't be sus2 because the third is present there as well,so it's a 9th, and the 6th is still a 6th and not a 13th because there's no 7th in a 6/9 chord it's just 1,3,(5),6,9
