O.k i tryed to learn Theory and i went to cyberfret.com and began their. And i learned this
This an A major scale right. But is that just the scale or what, and what should i learn next. Does the same pattern at a diffrent location a C major scale or????
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Hi Musi
You got it ! That pattern you have can be any major scale - as long as your "root" is the note that's shown in red. So, for instance, if you wanted a C major scale, you'd want the red "2" on the first or sixth string to be the eighth fret.
If you want another take on this that might be a little easier to read, try this article, from our own pages: Scaling The Heights
Hope this helps.
Peace
Then what is this, Guitar pro says this an A major scale
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It is.
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That Guitar Pro shows the A major scale across the entire length of the fretboard.
Usually a guitarist will learn scales in "steps" or "positions." If you look at your first chart, you can see that this position covers the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh frets of the Guitar Pro scale.
The reason for learning things in positions is that it's easier to play in a span of three to four frets than it is to play all over the guitar. The thing that you will learn is that all of this positions have overlapping notes, so going from one to another is pretty easily done with practice.
Hope this helps.
Peace
Hey guys I'm just starting to get my hands around scales and modes and I'm alittle confused. In the first post the note that is the RED 2 is on F# which is not the root. Is this then a mode of A major?
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Hi cnev (and congrats on your 100th post!)
The first post is what's called a "Generic" scale chart. The idea is that you can place this anywhere along the neck and it will be some major scale (and again I find myself referring you back to "Scaling the Heights" https://www.guitarnoise.com/columns/2002/20020504.php
if you want to see this laid out a little easier.
If you assume that the first post is open position, then this would be the F# major scale because, as you point out, the red 2 would be on the F#.
If you were to shove this whole thing up the frets so that the red 2 was on the fifth fret, then you'd have the A major scale - and you can conveniently see that by checking against the Guitar Pro chart. You can also see where you get the A major again by lining the red 2 up on the 17th fret.
The point is that you can use this pattern anywhere on the guitar and it will always be a major scale for whose root is whatever note corresponds to the red 2.
Hope this helps.
Peace
David
The red 2 is the root. What this diagram shows is the finger placement to play this pattern - notice only numbers 1-4.
Either follow the link that David gave you or you can look here:
http://people.freenet.de/greybeard/ScalePatternsGmaj_V2.htm
The patterns have been laid out in terms of scale degrees rather than finger positions
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Should i just learn the pattern or the whole fretboard thing??
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In my opinion, you should learn the patterns and how they relate to each other - look at the top pattern, the top half is the same as the bottom half of the lowest pattern. They cycle around, so wherever one pattern is placed, you can position the others around it.
BUT, I also think that you should understand the theory behind it.
What I do is learn one pattern. Once I know it, I learn the next pattern to it. Once I am fairly happy, with it, I start to run the two patterns together, going up one and down the other. Start with the lowest fret position and slide up to the second pattern, when you get to the high e, slide down and come back down the lower pattern.
When you have that going, add another pattern.
What I show on my website is the same as guitar pro gives you, except that I separate the fretboard into 5 patterns, which I think is more readable (and also reflects their place in the CAGED system).
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Learn these two patterns. They apply anywhere on the fretboard:
5th string root:
--|--4--|-----|--5--|-----|--6--|--
--|--1--|-----|--2--|-----|--3--|--
--|-----|--6--|-----|--7--|--1--|--
--|-----|--3--|--4--|-----|--5--|--
--|-----|--7--|--1--|-----|--2--|--
--|--4--|-----|--5--|-----|--6--|--
6th string root:
--|-----|--7--|--1--|-----|--2--|--
--|--4--|-----|--5--|-----|--6--|--
--|-----|--2--|-----|--3--|--4--|--
--|-----|--6--|-----|--7--|--1--|--
--|-----|--3--|--4--|-----|--5--|--
--|-----|--7--|--1--|-----|--2--|--
Note that the flat/sharp notes are in between the others. For example the b3 (minor 3rd) is between the 2 and the 3.
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Dave,
I understand this is a moveable scale pattern and I understand that the red 2 is the root it's that in Musi's original post he asked if this was an A scale pattern and you replied yes but since the root was on the F# it's not an A scale it's and F# scale. Maybe I was being to picky about semantics but I am clear on it, thanks.
I was worried for a minute that I didn't understand the scale pattern and somehow that scale pattern starting on F# was no being called an A scale.
Chris
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Your first post shows a diagram that's a major scale pattern, and the name of the scale will be the note played with the second finger on the 6th string. If you're in the first position, that's F# major.
Compare that pattern to the A major scale in Musi's post, and you'll see the pattern appears in the fourth position (second finger playing A on the fifth fret of the sixth string).
If you want it to be C major, move that pattern to the seventh position (second finger on the eighth fret).
Tom
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I approach it much as Greybeard does, except I break the scale across the fretboard into seven interlocking patterns -- corresponding to the modes, as it were.
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