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(@rollnrock89)
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Hello, what would be a good scale to solo in over a I IV VII rhythm (A, D, G all mixed up in no particular order)? I've been using a pentatonic scale at the 5th fret:
e 5-8
B 5-8
G 5-7
D 5-7
A 5-7
E 5-8

but im not sure If thats the best choice. Anyone have a better suggestion? Thanks

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Well... it's not I-IV-VII in A. It's I-IV-V in D (D-G-A). You'll have better luck moving that pentatonic up a couple frets - at the 7th fret its B minor pentatonic, and Bm is relative to D.

If you're looking for a single scale, that's probably it.

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Thanks alot, that sounds great over it. How exactly did you figure out that it was in the key of D? I'm rather confused about determining what key a song is just from knowing the chords.

o and also, what exactly do you mean by Bm is relative to D?

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relative majors and minor..

C/Am
G/Em
D/Bm
A/F#m
B/G#m

C major (C D E F G A B C) has the same notes as A minor (A B C D E F G A)

just start on VI of the major scale you get the relative minor.

if we look up..

A major (A B C# D E F# G# A) and see the 6th note is F#, then from F# to F# in that scale will be F#m (F# G# A B C# D E F#).


   
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The chords that fall naturally into a key will all be made of notes from the same scale - they just use every other note. If you're in C, the scale is:

C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C

and the chords that fall into the key of C will be:

C major (C-E-G)
D minor (D-F-A)
E minor (E-G-B)
F major (F-A-C)
G major (G-B-D)
A minor (A-C-E)
B diminished (B-D-F)

You can see the major chords fall on I, IV, and V, and that's true of all major keys. Minor keys get a little more complicated, because there's more than one minor scale. As Alex pointed out, the minor that falls on the sixth note of a major scale is the starting point for a relative minor.

If you have three major chords, you can figure out the key. Start by assuming it's in a major key - one of the major chords will be the I chord, or tonic. In your example, you had A, D, and G.

To keep things simple for now, I won't get into the scale tones... we'll just use the letter names. You should learn the scale spellings, though, because some scales will use flat or sharp chords, like Bb or F#, and knowing the scales will help you get them right.

In your example you had A, D, and G.

If A is I, then the chords fall on I-IV-VII
if D is I, then the chords fall on I-IV-V
if G is the I, then the chords fall on I-II-V

Only D fits the I-IV-V progression, so D is the only major key that naturally contains those three chords. After you've been doing this for a while, you get to instantly recognize what key you're in from the chords in the progression.

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Thanks alot, I even think I understood some of it. Is there a good book on this subject that I might get? I'm just starting to learn some theory, so I didnt totally understand everythin you said. Thanks again.

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The D minor pentatonic (or D blues scale, with the flat V added) will also work over a D major accompaniment.

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NoteBoat is apparently too modest to promote his own book, but since you asked, go to NoteBoat's website and check it out. :)


   
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