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(@yashicamat)
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Just me and my acoustic. I've not bothered to layer over a intro solo as it's too much like hard work on a Sunday afternoon. :oops:

See Stella & Dylan - I promised I would do a full cover . . . :)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FGUX6LT9GzE

Rob

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Posted : 16/03/2008 4:11 pm
 KR2
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OMG!
Perfect execution of guitar.
Thanks to you, the girls aren't kicking our butts.

Brutal honesty?
The voice (to me) is not that good, mein freund.

Which means one of two things.
Work on it. Or form a band where you are lead guitarist and back up singer.

That's just my opinion.

Feel free to tell me to go to hell.
My wife does almost daily :x

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Posted : 16/03/2008 5:16 pm
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I think you are correct :oops: the voice is not good. I keep meaning to give singing lessons a go to at least try and see if my voice has any potential.

Thank you on the compliments re the guitar playing. :) I thought it was less than perfect, but I'm still learning to play and sing at the same time!

I would never tell someone who is giving constructive citicsm to go to hell! I take such advice on board and find it helpful. What I do object to (as does almost everyone) is the arrogant youtube users who just leave blatently offensive comments.

Thanks dude. :)

Rob

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Posted : 16/03/2008 5:30 pm
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Both options are open.
I bet if you polled most band singers they would say they got their start from singing in a church choir.
The singing was not bad. Just flat on a few key notes.

I have no credentials in this matter.
I am all new to guitaring.

I did notice that there is a Singing board on this forum and I've never gone there because I've considered my own voice a lost cause.

But don't let me limit your potentials.

I am awestruck at what you have done on guitar and would be very happy to be where you are at on guitar with the amount of time that you have been "playing".
I will say this as I watched your video, You were most concerned with your upcoming voice. As a consequence, you executed perfectly. Damn. I envy you.
And it is all playing.
If you are lucky, you can make money from it.
But it is like a lottery.

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Posted : 16/03/2008 6:26 pm
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About your vocals, I think I heared a few 'issues':

1) You were playing and singing at the same time.
2) Your mind was focussing on the guitar, which makes singing impossible. Espescially considering:
3) It didn't sound like you were practicing this vocal track as much as the guitar part.

These three points together mean your vocals will take a big hit, no matter how your voice is. I would say your guitarpart is 90% done, but those ten percent that are missing means you've got to concentrate and focus on the guitar at every point. I'm sure that if you would continue practicing the guitar part for two weeks you'll see your vocals increase as well as you'll have more 'mental energy'. After that you might want to practice the vocal track. Most of us assume we all know the vocal part because we play the songs we love, but that ain't so. Practice them measure for measure, then with the guitar measure for measure. Memorize where each syllable lands in relation to the guitar.

This might sound rough but you're gettting very close. IMHO the final week of practice will see your improvement go up more then the other few weeks combined. It's the difference between 'being able to play a piece' and being able to play it while thinking about what groceries to get. As for your voice itself, I hear no long-term problems. Even more so, I bet you can sound a lot better then you think you do. If you don't believe me, record yourself playing, then a second track with yourself singing and send me both tracks.

 
Posted : 16/03/2008 6:53 pm
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Thank you both for your advice. :)

Ignar, yes you are very correct - I have spent considerably more time on the guitar piece, mainly because if I chill out I play the guitar automatically. However, I have to specifcally think to actually sing as well - hence it happens a lot less frequently. This afternoon's effort you have seen was pulled together in under an hour (although obviously I already knew the guitar part pretty much and reasonable gist of what the vocals should sound like).
I shall make it a target to practice this song and see what gives. I'll leave the old one up for comparison. :)

Rob

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Posted : 16/03/2008 8:46 pm
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Guitar is great. Try singing in an octive higher. Sounds like you were stuggling with a voice too low.

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Posted : 17/03/2008 4:18 am
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Hey Yash

Guitar is sounding beautiful and clean. I know the problems you're having with the singing and playing because I'm in exactly the same situation, although your playing is a hundred times better than mine.

I find that I start singing to the beat of the music rather than singing with the music and then when you think about that, you start to play the tune to the vocals... back and forth. Because I'm doing the same thing I can listen to you playing and singing and know exactly when that is happening - quite reassuring really... :wink:

You voice sounds nervous because you're concentrating so much. It sounds like you've got the tune ok and shouldn't need to concentrate on the playing, just the singing so loosen up a bit - I think someone has mentioned that you need to get your voice a little higher, but you're suppose to sing at your own natural range - hey, what do I know - I've just read it :roll:

Well done mate - I'm with you all the way.

Rock on!

D 8)

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Posted : 17/03/2008 9:30 am
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you already have a lot of good advice here. Just put the same feeling into your vocal as you do in your lead solo's and you cant go wrong :D

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Posted : 18/03/2008 1:55 am
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OK guys, well I've not had a huge amount of time to practice this, but I thought I'd post up the "work in progress".

I've tried altering the way I sing . . . do folks reckon this sounds better or worse? I think I'm flat on a few notes still though. :oops:

A friend reckons it is "like someone singing the original badly" :oops: :lol: . . .

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=He6EOZmEFs4

Rob

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Posted : 25/03/2008 8:59 pm
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Thats better! You seem to be more at ease and finding your own voice. Keep working on it 8)

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Posted : 25/03/2008 9:21 pm
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Cheers smokindog. :)

Yeah I shall keep at it. I've been recording any dabblings I've been doing so I can keep tabs on not just this particular song, but my singing in general. I am seeing small improvements in other songs too, even though I'm not working at them as much. Methinks I am slowly (very!) but surely learning to sing. :D

That latest recording was very ad hoc and on my cheapo acoustic, I just decided just now to record it just like that with no practice runs and after several beers . . . I shall give it another week or so and I'll give it another shot. I know the song off by heart now, which helps a lot - the first time around I was reading the chords / vocals off the computer screen.

Rob

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Posted : 25/03/2008 9:25 pm
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Cheers smokindog. :)
That latest recording was very ad hoc and on my cheapo acoustic, I just decided just now to record it just like that with no practice runs and after several beers . . . I shall give it another week or so and I'll give it another shot. I know the song off by heart now, which helps a lot - the first time around I was reading the chords / vocals off the computer screen.
I liked it. I'm still blown away by your guitar playing.
If you were flat, I didn't hear it. I thought you were hitting the notes just fine.
With more confidence (which will come with practice) you'll build up the strength of your voice and be belting out the that tune.
Work on the more confidence and more belting! :D
(Good idea to use the beer but don't use it as a crutch to boost your confidence)

Keep at it and keep posting your progress.

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Posted : 25/03/2008 10:06 pm
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As James Hatfield says .."BEEEER GOOOOD". Just not to much of it :lol:

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Posted : 25/03/2008 10:14 pm
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Hey Rob

Ok, the playing is great (as usual) :evil: and the singing is clearer and smoother, yup you've got the tonal range ok for this, but you're still having a few problems separating the song from the rhythm so you start singing words with the beats (I do this as well, so I think it must be one of those learning things), we'll just having keep practising :roll:

My ears tell me that you need to slow the vocals down a bit - you sound a little bit hurried in getting the words out. Could always try Jack Daniels instead of Timothy Taylor I suppose... :wink:

Sounds good and not having the video camera watching your every move and grimace must certainly help.

Well done and Rock on!

D 8)

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Posted : 26/03/2008 1:39 pm
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