cheers! the first one sounds like what i was looking for they're good websites too, i just been looking at some of the lessons and they aint to bad

cheers guys thats really helped. thanks for the welcome to! :) i have never had any lessons so reading all the articles and forums has really helped...

yeah i first heard of elliot smith from the film the Royal tenanbaums. they play needle in the hay over a suicide attempt scene, it's very dark and ef...