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(@mikers)
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ok i got
C C7 ......
that ...... is my gap!
i cant think of wat chord to do next... i know theres F then Fm which you could do but instead of F i want a higher note then a lower note..
so in otherwords im looking for an alternative to F Fm

any advice appreciated

Mike


   
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(@jbehar)
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I'm sure Noteboat will chime in here shortly...

But I don't think two chords make a progression, you'll need at least three.

what goes along with C?

A
D
E
F
G

You'll need a minor chord in there somewhere to spice things up,

maybe Am, Em, Fm, Bm, Dm

Oh, and maybe another 7th as well

I think you're getting the picture...

I've seen C and C7 in about a zillion different progressions


   
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(@forrok_star)
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What mood or feeling are you wanting to create. Different chord voicing will reflect different feelings.

Here's a Guitar chord chart...Play around you'll find the one that just I'm it.

Joe


   
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(@noteboat)
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I don't recall any rules on how many chords make up a progression... I checked a few of my old college textbooks here and I don't see anything there either. Generall, though, a series of two chords which sounds 'final' will be called a cadence.

Seventh chords usually want to move by a fifth, so C7 wants to go to F to fit the natural harmonic progression. Other common chord movements are by step (to a D chord or a Bb), by half step (to C# or B), but there really aren't any rules to what's allowed or not - some composers have done unusual things, so whatever works, works.

The C7 sets you up as being in some F-based key, at least in the short term. Chords that fit into F keys will be: F, Fm, Gm, Ab, Am, Bb, Bbm, C, Cm, Db, Dm, Eb, Eº... there's a lot of possibilities if you're going to do some unusual modulation.

You can also use the C7 as a transition to a new key. The usual way would be through secondary dominants (C7 -> F7 -> Bb), but any change that keeps part of the C7 chord will also work. C7 = C-E-G-Bb, so you could do something like C7 -> Em7b5 and roll on from there.

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(@tim_madsen)
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I'm sure Noteboat will chime in here shortly...

But I don't think two chords make a progression, you'll need at least three.

Merle Haggard wrote about a dozen songs with just the chords D & A7.
I don't believe there is a rule on the amount of chords in a progression. Other than it would have to be more than one.

Tim Madsen
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(@jbehar)
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And yet again I learn something new here...

Thanks guys.


   
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(@mikers)
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The mood im looking for is yeah a kinda sad type of mood.... thanks for your help so far guys :)

Mike


   
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(@mikers)
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ok one more thing F after C7 produces a low note......... but im after a higher note like a chord which has a higher pitch then a lower sound after that....

hence C C7 (higher pitch) (lower pitch) --- im trying not to use F after!

But hey i guess i just have to mix n match hey :)


   
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(@noteboat)
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Nothing says the F has to be lower... these are F chords too:

5-8
6-10
5-10
7-10
8-8
x-x

(there are lots more - these are just the most common voicings)

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(@forrok_star)
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Dropping notes down in the scale alter the feeling of the scale and can make it darker or sad sounding. Blues gets it's feel from switching back and forth between Major and Minor notes. Example: The third is the middle note in the I chord, dropping this note ½ of a step, becomes minor. "A" minor chord can sound pretty sad. Kind-a like happy Major and sad minor. Maybe learn some Diminished 7 chords. For a little extra and flat the 7th an maybe flat the 5th.

You'll be sounding pretty sad. I can that old hound dog now..

Joe


   
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