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 tmac
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Hey Everybody,

I'm having a problem getting my pinky and ring finger to do the stretch between strings 1 and 6 for the G Chord. They just don't wanna share that space and it's frustrating the heck outta me.

It's easier to use the middle finger on the 6th string, but that slows the transistion for me from the C chord. Plus, I figure this stretch will come up again at some point, so I may as well start working on it now.

Can anyone suggest some advice or excercises on how to make this easier?

tmac :?

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The "usual" way to fret the G chord is index finger on the 5th string (2nd fret) middle finger on the low E and the little finger on the high E. I would never use my ring finger to play the low E.

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Greybeard's method allows you to add the 3rd fret of the B string for a different G voicing, but the fingering I use most often is 2-3-4, with the ring/pinky split you describe. Unless your hands are particularly small, it's likely a matter of position.

Try placing your little finger first. Then play with the angle of the guitar in three directions - try raising the headstock; try moving the headstock away from your body a bit; and try 'flattening' the face of the guitar so it's more vertical. A lot of beginners have minor flaws with guitar position that become major problems with sme chords... it's a natural thing to want to see what you're doing, so the guitar gets angled a bit in each direction so you can watch your hands. You're likely to find that some position adjustment suddenly gives you the reach you need.

Once you've figured out the guitar position, take a look at your fretting hand wrist. The wrist should be relatively straight (so the forearm and the back of the hand are in pretty close to a straight line). If you're dropping your wrist a lot - making an angle t the back of your hand - you've got the headstock too low, and you'll want to make some more adjustments to prevent wrist strain.

I have an 11 year old student who had the same problem - he plays a classical guitar, so the width of the neck made the G tough for him. We adjusted his position a bit at a time, and now he plays it like an old pro - it took him about 4 weeks (but we only worked on it a couple minutes at most at each lesson).

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Thinking about it, you can use just 3 & 4 on the low E and the high E - use your ring finger to damp the A string, for another very sweet voicing of the G chord.

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I finger it the same as NoteBoat, it makes it a lot easier for me to transition to and from C & F. G was hard for me to finger at first, it took a couple weeks to get it down. I think it was mostly a problem of muscle memory.

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 tmac
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NoteBoat, Tim and greybeard, thanks for your replies.

I don't think I have particularly small hands, and my challenge doesn't seem to match that of 11 year old hands working with a classical neck. I'll move around a bit and see if I can find a position that is more suitable for me and then keep working at it until muscle memory helps.

Now that I know it'll take a bit longer than my ever-impatient self assumed it should, I'll keep at it.

Thanks again, I really appreciate your responses.

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(@oldiron)
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The Mel Bay "Teach yourself Guitar" method shows the G using the 2nd,3rd,4th fingers. I would assume this would allow a quick transion to the G7 which they show using the 1st,2nd,& 3rd fingers. All you would have to do is fret the third fret with the pinkie to move between the two. I've been working it both ways but I have a piano players long fingers.

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Yes, all the Bay books I've seen (and many others) show 2-3-4 as the 'correct' fingering. A lot of folk music/easy guitar/learn to play in a weekend type books show 1-2-3.

The best fingering will be the one that minimizes motion.... motion of the fingers, hand, and wrist. The less motion, the faster (and smoother) you'll change. In most situations, that means 2-3-4. I'll use 1-2-3 for tunes that have no 1st fret notes - that way I can keep my hand in second position. A couple that come to mind right off the top of my head:

Over the Hills and Far Away (G-D, with the notes from the riff on the 2nd & 4th fret)
Locomotive Breath (Em-G-D-B)

But most of the time I use 2-3-4.

Just about every chord has alternate fingerings. Here are the different open A fingerings I use:

1-2-3
2-3-4
2-1-3
1-1-1
3-3-3

Again, it depends on where I'm coming from/going to. So A beats G by a score of 5-2 :)

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