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(@srpntmage)
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ok, I've been working on a particular song recently that has been causing me issues.
"Science Fiction Double Feature", from the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" soundtrack. It is supposed to go like this:

A-G
F-E
repeat

Chorus
D-E-A-F#m

Not a lot of chords. Pretty easy rhythm. My problem is with the F#m. It doesn't sound correct, not to mention, the transition from A to F#m is pretty tough. Any ideas? I would say it is the wrong chord, but that is the only one I have seen online in any of the tabs.

Also, I have noticed in this song, and others. When transitioning between open and barre chords, the barres always sound... out of place. They have a different sound to them, and it stands out. Open chords sound clean and pure, barres sound sort of hollow by comparison. I'm pretty sure it isn't me playing them incorrectly, as all of the strings sound correctly. Is there a way to avoid this, it is kind of jarring.


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 KR2
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I just listened to the song on YouTube
and then played the D E A F#m and it sounded right to me.
Are you sure you're playing F#m and not Fm?
I think that would be 244222.

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(@srpntmage)
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You know... I think I was playing it 133111. I'll have to check when I get home.


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 EMT
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what's 244222 and 133111?

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(@coolnama)
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The chords.

133111 <--- is Fm, its like a tab, you play the 1st fret in the 1st, 2nd 3rd, and 6th strings and the 4th and 5th strings u play in the 3rd fret.

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They are actual numerical representations of the fingerings.

The first one is the fingering for an F#m barre chord and the second one is for Fm (not F as Coolnama just wrote).

You read numerical fingerings from left to right and the first number is the fret played on the low E string. If the number is a "0" then the string is played open. "x" means don't play the string. The second number is the fret played on the A string and so on.

The regular open position Em chord is written out as "022000". C major would be "x32010."

Hope this helps.

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ok, I've been working on a particular song recently that has been causing me issues.
"Science Fiction Double Feature", from the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" soundtrack. It is supposed to go like this:

A-G
F-E
repeat

Chorus
D-E-A-F#m

Not a lot of chords. Pretty easy rhythm. My problem is with the F#m. It doesn't sound correct, not to mention, the transition from A to F#m is pretty tough. Any ideas? I would say it is the wrong chord, but that is the only one I have seen online in any of the tabs.

Also, I have noticed in this song, and others. When transitioning between open and barre chords, the barres always sound... out of place. They have a different sound to them, and it stands out. Open chords sound clean and pure, barres sound sort of hollow by comparison. I'm pretty sure it isn't me playing them incorrectly, as all of the strings sound correctly. Is there a way to avoid this, it is kind of jarring.
Would it sound especially wrong if you played the chorus with an open D, open E, slide to a 5th fret barred A, slide back to a 2nd fret barred F#m? Sometimes playing that different voicing just doesn't work, but that was my first thought on seeing the chorus. Basically, once you're playing the E, using your middle, ring and pinky to fret the notes, it's just moving up and down the fretboard a little bit to go to the other two. Also avoids the change between open and barre.

Shoot, with that G chord barred at the 3rd fret in the verse, you could play the whole song as E shapes within five frets, other than that pesky D.


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Shoot, with that G chord barred at the 3rd fret in the verse, you could play the whole song as E shapes within five frets, other than that pesky D.
Yep, I was going to say that . . .almost the whole song can be played with barre chords . . . there . . . I just did.
But at least the pesky D is played in between the E . . . which makes it easier . . . than if it was after the barre A (which would be further away)

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(@srpntmage)
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Yeah, I tried to play the whole thing in barres the other day after I realized my mistake with the F#m fingering.

The verses work great, and it sounds good, but that D kills it. Oh well, it gives me a reason to practice my barre to open chord transitions.


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cool, thanks.

ok another question. Fm is F minor? whats F#m?
and is is ther an F major or just F?

ok so maybe i should have said more questions. :D

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(@srpntmage)
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F#m is F sharp minor


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(@coolnama)
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When you say F major what you are saying is F F and F major are the same thing ^^.

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try playing an F#m7 which is 202200, easy to get to from most variations of an open A and gives a really nice sound if you play all strings cleanly.

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(@easewlad)
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Bit of a cheat and probably won't have enough oomph but you could try

A as X0222X and F#m as XX422X and see how it sounds

barring the second fret with the index and then simply add ring finger on 4th fret to make the F#m
You could even leave the open A to see how that goes.


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(@wattsiepoops)
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Tried those other F#m you just said.

Really like the second one with the open A string.

Harder to get to than the F#m7 though

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