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 geoo
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Well, I have been playing my acoustics for a little over a year now and I FINALLY was able to change my strings all by myself. I am both happy and embarrassed. I figured out what I was doing wrong all along. I was going the wrong direction when you go through the little hole in the tuning peg.

Most of all i want to thank NILS for such a terrific sitefor helping people do things like restringing their guitar. Couldnt have done it without that. My Ovation sounds so beautiful now. I cant believe how much different. They must have used cheapy strings the last time the shop restrung it for me.

Thanks Nils

Geoo

“The hardest thing in life is to know which bridge to cross and which to burn” - David Russell (Scottish classical Guitarist. b.1942)


   
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(@mattguitar_1567859575)
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Yeah, a big well done to everyone that, like Nils, bothers to get to the bottom of these things in a clear and concise way. Its easy to forget we were all raw beginners once.

i second that

Matt


   
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I agree guys!


   
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(@twistedlefty)
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another guitarist rescued from the pits of despair! way to go Nils!
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 Mike
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Nils who? :P


   
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I still need an armor suit to change mine. :oops:

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YAY nils, and geoo for stringing his guitar!

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I just changed my strings last night and there it is - the buzzing!!!!! EVERY TIME I change the strings it happens. I can't afford to do a setup evertime I change the darn strings. I hate doing this but I'm going to try and adjust the action myself. Which way do I turn (counter clockwise - clockwise) when the buzzing occurs on the "E" and "A" bass strings? As far as I can tell it buzzes before and after the 5'th fret.

When it buzzes like this it's not worth playing.............

My brand new Casino (electric) is buzzing also (not to mention the X%#%@%#%# AMP), but, I'll save that for another day.

BJ


   
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Which way do I turn (counter clockwise - clockwise) when the buzzing occurs on the "E" and "A" bass strings? As far as I can tell it buzzes before and after the 5'th fret.

If it's being caused by your neck relief then I believe you need to go clockwise to increase the relief. However, I'd go check out Nils's site to be sure this is correct. ;)

I must also give my praise to Nils. I referenced his website again just two days ago for my second restringing and also my first foray into setting up the guitar (shaved a bit off the saddle to reduce the action).

I can see I'm improving already with restringing and I definitely have Nils to thank for that!

Kudos to you mate! 8)

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 Nils
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Wow, Thanks folks. Nice to get feedback especially when it is positive :D .

And yes Mike, I love you to :lol: :lol:

clideguitar, I wonder what is going on that every time you change your strings it starts to buzz. There are two thoughts that comes to mind (other than action and neck relief). One is that you are removing all the strings at the same time and the bridge is screwing itself down a little or second, you are not stretching the strings a little between a first and second tuning after changing them.

Before you just change the setup or relief I suggest you go to my site and just go through the measurement steps and see what if anything is low. I am guessing if anything with the buzz at the 5th fret that it maybe be neck relief and not just the action.

Let us know what you find.

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clideguitar, I wonder what is going on that every time you change your strings it starts to buzz. There are two thoughts that comes to mind (other than action and neck relief). One is that you are removing all the strings at the same time and the bridge is screwing itself down a little or second, you are not stretching the strings a little between a first and second tuning after changing them.

OK, I replied in another forum but , after changing the strings Sunday morning, when I went home Monday night, it was, well, all the strings were about 1/2 step out of tune, when I retuned, it sounded MUCH better. I can still hear a buzz on low E string but not as bad so I'm just going to wait and see.

A long time ago, before I ever read your page, I read where you should WRAP the string around the peg at least once (this will reduce pressure off the neck) and then tighten (instead of just putting the string directly through the whole then tightening).

Also, when I had my EPI in for a SETUP the last time I didn't ask what them what gauge string they put on. Well, I should have told them put on a light guage string. I didn't know that then.

I also mentioned in the other post that when I took off the old strings, and tilted the guitar upside down (something was in the soundhole) my bridge fell off (just the bone peice - if you know what I mean). At the time I didn't think it was a big deal so I just put it back in not thinking that the right or left side could make a difference?

Yea - I'l let you know how it works out.

Thanks,
Bob Jessie


   
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 geoo
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Changed my other guitar strings last night. This is a regular dreadnought style. It was a little more difficult than the Ovation but I think i am getting the hang of it. Mostly, my problem was that I was having a hard time keeping the little peg that holds the string from popping back out while I would wind the string. Also, I have a little to much wound on my E and A strings but after the first two I guess I started judging it a bit better.

I'm excited. It sounded good and I am not afraid of it anymore. Also, when tuning it I was within the note range of tuning it by ear. So, seems like my ears are getting used to the correct notes. Obviously I still had to find tune it with a tuner.. but it was close.

Geoo

“The hardest thing in life is to know which bridge to cross and which to burn” - David Russell (Scottish classical Guitarist. b.1942)


   
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