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(@davebf)
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At the risk of seeming politically incorrect, what scale do I use to make my guitar sound like that of a Spaniard, or a Mexican (I believe it's called Flamenco, but I could easily be wrong)... You know, like they show it in the movies, with the lightning fast runs into a quickly strummed major chord haha.
The closest I've found would be the Phrygian, but something doesn't sound quite right... Help would be greatly appreciated :)
Thanks in advanced,
Dave


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(@fretsource)
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The Phrygian Dominant scale might be closer to what you're looking for.
From E the notes are:
E F G# A B C D E


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(@davebf)
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Thank you very much for the quick reply..
And ya that sounds better thanks
I suppose I should have been able to figure out that one myself haha not much of a difference
Thanks


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That was actually taught to me as the "Spanish Phrygian."

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It's often called the "Spanish Phrygian", but it's perhaps more enlightening to think of it as harmonic minor with the V chord featuring rather heavily.

Spanish/Mexican songs are almost invariably in A minor, but with heavy use of the E (V), F(bVI) and G (bVII) chords, plus an occasional C (III).

I once watched a Spanish singer/guitarist for an hour play about 20 songs and they were all like that. In very many of them tension is built by alternating E and F (using a barre chord), then resolving to the Am occasionally.

And yes, the notes of A harmonic minor are E F G# A B C D E, only arranged A B C D E F G# A, plus the odd G from the natural minor.

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(@davebf)
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Thank you all very much :)


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 Nuno
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First, I'm not a specialist.

Now, flamenco is not Mexican music and, for example, rancheras are not Spanish songs. They are completely different styles of music.

Hbriem, just a curiosity, who was that singer? Did he play pop?


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Hbriem, just a curiosity, who was that singer? Did he play pop?

I don't know who he was. It was at a kind of "European Christmas festival" in Manchester, but he wasn't playing christmassy music. I have no idea what he was playing. It was all in Spanish and I recognised none of the songs. It was not pure flamenco although he frequently used the rasquedo. I'd say "old fashioned Spanish pop/folk based on flamenco" for want of a better description. Not very different from mariachi bands I've heard but different from the pop Spaniards play on FM radio. Lots of "corazon" and "ay-ay-ay-ay" in the lyrics.

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Lots of "corazon" and "ay-ay-ay-ay" in the lyrics.
LOL! Great description!

The "corazón" and "ay-ay-ay-ay" and the same kind of music, chords, lyrics, rhythms, etc. sound like "bolero". Although the people of the south of Spain could also play similar rhythms with some flamenco-like addings.

Difficult to say anything or help here :?


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En lo personal prefiero la sonora mexicana, obviamente soy fanática de los mariachis y es `por eso que me encanta tener en cuenta este tipo de melodías.


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En lo personal prefiero la sonora mexicana, obviamente soy fanática de los mariachis y es `por eso que me encanta tener en cuenta este tipo de melodías.

Which translates more or less as:

Personally I prefer the Mexican sound, obviously I am a fan of mariachis and that's why I love to take into account this type of melodies.

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