I'm cycling through progland, and stuck on Genesis this week.
Need some help with Mike Rutherford's sound in "Follow You, Follow Me"? Obviously there's some delay - analog or digital? I'm guessing analog because the trails seem to get warmer ... And what else - flanger? phaser? chorus? Also maybe a compressor?
It's easiest to hear at the very beginning of the song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg7HE-P_C54
Nice bit of pop; hard to believe it's from 1978 ... predated the 80s synth-pop bands!
"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."
I can't find any sites that say for sure what effects Mike used. I think he's using an analog delay with a flanger, and maybe a bit of chorus.
Dan
"The only way I know that guarantees no mistakes is not to play and that's simply not an option". David Hodge
Thanks Dan-T-Man! Yeah, I think a flanger is my key missing ingredient; got the delay and a touch of chorus going.
"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."
I'd say delay with envelope filtering/follower instead of flanging. it also sounds like ping-pong (stereo) delay. the closest I have is the swept delay on my Echo Park delay pedal -- and it's very close. it's not as harsh or atonal and metallic as flanging.
didn't Collins use a Linn drum machine at that time? if so, I wouldn't be surpised if Roger Linn put together something for Rutherford. if you've ever heard the Adrenalinn guitar EFX box, it is capable of similar.
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Envelope filter - very interesting. I'll have to check those out. Makes me think of funk though. :) I had forgotten about ping-pong delay; that makes sense too.
I don't know if Linn was making other gear before the drum machine, but Collins first reported use was a year later with Brand X; supposedly Duke was the first Genesis album on which he used one.
Thanks!
"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."
envelope filters don't just do funk (autowah). depending on how they are set-up some can do a timed sweep of LP, HP or BP filter. some of those sound more whoosh-like than wah-like
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