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 Musi
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Could somebody be so nice and tell me how i form the major scale over the entire fretbord i know the basic first pattern, but how do i use it all over the fretboard (Hope somebody understands my shitty spelling)

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(@nicktorres)
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You shift the pattern so the root note of the pattern matches the root note on the fretboard.

Start with the 6th string root at the 5th fret and you have A, 8th fret C etc.


   
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(@argus)
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I think he wants to play all the notes of one scale over the entire fretboard.

OK, grab a pen and paper. Draw a fretboard (perhaps a 24x6 grid) and label the strings from 1-6 or E to high E.

OK.

Now pick a key, any key. We'll go with Bb just for fun.

Now what are the notes in Bb major?

They're:

1. Bb
2. C
3. D
4. Eb
5. F
6. G
7. A
and back to Bb.

Now if you know where all these notes are on the fretboard, you're set. Just shade in all the notes on your "map" and signify wherever Bb occurs (maybe writing an R with a dark pen). You could label all the other notes as well, but it might end up being more trouble than it's worth.

If all of this seems too much, try starting off by doing the above, only with a major pentatonic. That way you can build on it when you're ready.


   
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(@musenfreund)
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Check Rayman's response at the bottom of the first page of this thread:

http://forums.guitarnoise.com/?board=theory;action=display;num=1063250647

Those are the interlocking patterns (ahem, modes) for playing the scales all across the fretboard.

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 Musi
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But these patterns are the same for all keys or does change if you change the root note

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(@321barf)
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Musi all of the notes you need to cover the entire fretboard are contained in the first of Rayman's pattern's , the "Ionian" pattern which is the major scale!

If you play that Ionian pattern and match the root to C then you are in the key of C.If you match the root to Db then you are in the key of Db.

All of the other patterns are just inversions of the major scale.They are also modes if you play them against their own root notes.

Okay if you play the Ionian pattern and match the Root note to C and play it through you'll get these notes:

Ionian
C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C

The next pattern is D Dorian:

D Dorian
D,E,F,G,A,B,C,D

The next pattern is E Phrygian:

E Phrygian
E,F,G,A,B,C,D,E,F

The next pattern is F Lydian:

F Lydian
F,G,A,B,C,D,E,F

The next pattern is G Mixolydian:

G Mixolydian
G,A,B,C,D,E,F,G

The Next pattern is the A Aeolian (Natural minor scale)

A Aeolian (for minor keys)
A,B,C,D,E,F,G,A

The next pattern is B Locrian:

B Locrian
B,C,D,E,F,G,A,B

Then it's back to pattern 1 (C Ionian again) an octave above

C Ionian
C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C

and THAT's how you cover the entire fretboard !!!

It's all just the same notes as the first pattern (the major scale)

Now if you started your Ionian(major scale) pattern on a different Root note,say G,then you'd be in the key of G instead of the key of C

The key of G would yield these notes (derived from the Ionian pattern)

G Ionian
G,A,B,C,D,E,F#,G


   
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(@musenfreund)
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When you change the root note (in the Ionian box), you change the key.  
Hope that made sense.

Ps (as Derp has shown --  I shoulda read all the way to the end of his post! )

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(@321barf)
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I'm gonna go ahead and repost those scales of Rayman's here.I don't think Rayman will mind.  ;)

Ionian

e|-----|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|  
b|-----|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|--R--|-----|  
G|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
D|-----|--o--|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
A|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|

Dorian

e|-----|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|  
b|-----|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|  
G|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
D|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
A|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|

Phrygian

e|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|  
b|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|  
G|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
D|--o--|-----|--R--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|  
A|--o--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|-----|

Lydian

e|-----|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|  
b|-----|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|--R--|-----|  
G|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|-----|  
D|-----|--o--|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
A|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|

Mixolydian

e|-----|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|  
b|-----|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|  
G|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
D|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
A|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|

Aeolian

e|-----|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|  
b|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|  
G|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
D|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|  
A|--o--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|

Locrian

e|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|  
b|-----|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|--R--|-----|  
G|--o--|-----|--o--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|  
D|--o--|-----|--R--|--o--|-----|-----|-----|  
A|--o--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|-----|  
E|--R--|--o--|-----|--o--|-----|-----|-----|


   
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