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(@corbind)
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Oh my, likely I should not even be asking because I may flub this one.  Say a song is in the key of G.  The 1-4-5 is G-C-D.  Since I only know the pentatonic minor scales root 6 could I just play an Em pentatonic and be okay in the song?  I'm guessing that G is the key and Em is the relative minor and should contain the same notes.  If that is true, it would sound like a major solo/fill?

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(@noteboat)
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It depends on what you do with the notes.

The Em pentatonic has E-G-A-B-D, all of which appear in the key of G.  You can make it sound good with chords in G major, since there aren't any notes that clash.

The key to any good solo is not just what notes to play, though, it's also when to play those notes.  Use your ears, record your solos and listen to them critically.  You'll probably want to add other notes as you advance in your ability, and you'll no doubt get around to learning other scales.

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(@alex_)
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all you have to do if you wanna work out a natural relative minor scale from the pentatonic is to fill in the two missing notes..

armed with the fact that G has an F#... then you know the second note will be an F note, and knowing there is an F# u know its F#! and then the other missing note is a C.. and there is only one sharp in G, u know it will be natural

think of it like this :

G A B C D E F# G

*thinks of Em pent*

E G A B D

missing 2nd and 6th note
only two notes missing are F and C
one sharp, thats an F, so second note is F#
E F# G A B D

last note to put in is a C, all notes bar F# are natural.

E F# G A B C D.. and there u get the E natural minor scale... relative to G.

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Alternatively (and probably way much easier)..

is to think of ANY relative minor scale as EXACTLY the same scale as a the relative major, just starting on the 6th note.

G A B C D E F# G... relative minor = 6th note
.......................................... 6th note = E
........................play same scale starting and ending on E
E F# G A B C D E

and yeah, its all true.

same with say.. B..

B C# D# E F# G# A# B

relative minor = 6th note - 6th note of that scale

G# A# B C# D# E F# G#.. and thats the G# nat minor scale.


   
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(@garytalley)
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YES.

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(@garytalley)
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especially if you end on a G.

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