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Looping a song section within iTunes?

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(@drunkrock)
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Is anyone aware of any plugin, or hidden way to do this in iTunes? Or alternatively, is there a program that will loop a song section that plays the m4a format?

It would really help with transcribing.


   
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(@cuppajack)
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It is doable, but kinda a pain...

make note of the start and end time of the loop you want, then select the song in iTunes and "get info" (either by right/ctrl clicking, or cmd-I) in one of the panes of the window that pops up is a place to specify the "start" and "end times of the song, input your times here and make sure the box is checked. Then you can play just that segment of song, and if itunes is set to repeat it will loop.


   
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(@kent_eh)
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Would it be easier to convert the files to something less proprietary, (like MP3) and use some other software to loop it?

For looping most audio files, I use Winamp (the free version) and the Loopmaster plugin . And the Pacemaker plugin to change the speed until I can play fast enough to keep up.

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(@hyperborea)
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Would it be easier to convert the files to something less proprietary, (like MP3) and use some other software to loop it?

Hmmm, not sure what you mean by proprietary. Proprietary means that the format is owned by a single company (or small group) and not open for general use.

Music is often stored in iTunes using MP3 or AAC (the audio encoding format of the open MPEG-4 standard). The only case where there are proprietary extensions is for rights management - often for songs purchased online at the requirement of the record labels. On the other hand, the Microsoft WMA format is fully proprietary and not open.

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(@kent_eh)
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After some Googling, it appears that I was thinking of the M4P (I-tunes DRMed format) rather than M4A, which seems to be listenable on many players, including Winamp.

Sorry for any confusion.

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(@drunkrock)
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Thanks CuppaJack. You are right it is not ideal, but I doubt I will be progressing through the song fast enough for it to be a pain right now.

But thank you again for finally giving me an answer to this question.


   
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(@drunkrock)
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I might as well ask the next obvious question: can I reduce the song speed without changing the pitch in iTunes?


   
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(@cuppajack)
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I might as well ask the next obvious question: can I reduce the song speed without changing the pitch in iTunes?

Nope.
At least no way I know of...
Maybe in Garage Band though....


   
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(@hyperborea)
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I might as well ask the next obvious question: can I reduce the song speed without changing the pitch in iTunes?
As said, no. However, you can do that in QuickTime or GarageBand.

QuickTime Player
1. open the audio file
2. Bring up the A/V controls (Window -> Show A/V Controls)
3) There you can set tempo and pitch

GarageBand
1. open a project
2. bring in the audio file
a) open the media browser and select your audio file
b) or drag it from the Finder into the project tracks
- this track is probably orange coloured - an audio track
3. convert the track to a "real instrument loop"
- Control-Option-G
- click in the timeline
4. bring up the track edit dialog (the little scissors and waveform button)
- select follow tempo and pitch
5. adjust the tempo and pitch and the track follows those changes

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(@kingpatzer)
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iTunes is a music library built to make obtaining content, fileing content and retrieving content for average, non-computer literate users.

It is more of a music management system for iPods than a full-featured audio player.

It's just the wrong tool for the job.

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(@drunkrock)
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Yeah I figured as much. Call me a slow learner, but I finally decided to download Winamp due to all the plugins available. I have tempo/pitch changer and vocal remover now. If only they would work simultaneously!

As well I now get to figure out how to loop a song section in Winamp. :roll:


   
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