Me likes the stereo recording LOL.
I recorded this with the MXL 990, about 18 inches form the sound hole about the guitar about 6", and with one Behringer C2 placed about 4-5" from the 12 fret straight ahead.
Once I got the tracks recorded, I panned each mic left AND right so had 4 files to work with to mix. The idea was to get both guitars in each ear. The downside was the white noise, which I think I took care of quite well.
The result I thinks is a much more balanced Bass/Mid/Treble with each ringing on its own and not overpowering each other. I also decided to not go with the Reverb, and I think I like the sound better. Now to just figure out how to compress it to get a CD loudness, these files are compressed, but I don't think I could use them in that application without cranking the stereo.
http://www.box.net/shared/22k3sgz8ku
Please let me know what you think and any feedback would be welcome! Recording is a WHOLE OTHER animal that is almost like learning the guitar all over.
EDIT: ADDED FILES WITH "STMIXREV" AT THE END, THOSE HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF REVERB....SO INDECISIVE LOL.
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Uff! It's difficult!
I think I prefer the number 2 (Breezy-StMixRev.mp3). I've used my Sennheiser and when the panning is very high (or wide) the effect is weird in my brain. Anyway the sound is very clear in all the mixes.
I like that one better too LOL, I like all the StMixRev files better, so I'm happy you said that. Thank you for your feedback!
The wide panning was supposed to give a better audio image of the guitar, so hopefully it does that without causing too much stress on the brain. I did notice that the problem I was having when listening to my recorded music is gone after this way of recording...so I think I'm at least on the right track.
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LOL! You are welcome my friend.
I guess when you add a little bit of reverb both signals 'mix' better than when they are dry. Mixing the same signal recorded twice is like a kind of 'chorus effect' (probably there is a short -and different- delay in every signal because of the nature and response of each mic). The reverb tends to 'fuzzy' the dry signal and makes easier to heard the mix.
Really I don't know what I am speaking! And probably I am wrong but it is a nice theory! LOL!
Well I didn't record them twice...is that what you were saying?
I just took the signal and panned them each left and right on the same files...I don't know what I'm doing either, it just happened to sound good LOL.
But I DO understand what you are saying about the mixes possibly being a little different, I just don't know where it would be...that's my ignorance though.
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I understood you used two mics simultaneously, thus I said you have two recordings from the same source (well I said signal in my other post).
But as I said I am just guessing. I have zero experience!
Oh okay okay...I thought you meant I recorded it twice. Some people do that when mixing the acoustic. They record it twice and mix them that way. I get it now :lol:
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Here are two more files....you sick of it yet? LOL. I think I got it this time. I recorded these as mono tracks L/R from the two mics, but mixed them down each panned about 50% instead of 100% each way, but to the opposite side the mics were on, if it was on the Right I panned it left, for example. Mixed it to one stereo file from there, and added a little reverb etc.
There is alot of white noise when you turn the volume up, so I would keep it down, but its pretty loud. Please let me know, it's these little adjustments I think are making a big difference!
http://www.box.net/shared/98sf54kqs5
http://www.box.net/shared/b0q9l00nap
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I'm here again. :D
Yes, I agree, it sounds much better. Probably, by reducing the panning you lose some "stereo" but the source of sound is more clear now (at least for my brain!). However, I think the "stereo effect" is kept in the recording.
Probably it is a matter of the song but Anglaise sounds very good, the bass line is like it was "behind" the melody: I saw a first line of notes in the melody and the bass in the second line, like in a vocal chorus.
And a question. Does Breezy finish in that way? I miss a final chord. My brain said "go on"!
Thanks! I agree, you lose that crazy 32 food wide guitar LOL. I listen to it in the car, to see how it sounds there and I think it sounds really good to me anyway.
Breezy does in fact finish that way. It has a kind of weird dissonant chord xx0333. At least that how it sounds to me in the game Final Fantasy VIII, that's where that song came from.
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Weird chord for finishing a song! :lol:
Do you know how to remove the white noise? Could it be removed by filtering? What is the origin? Sorry for the silly questions.
I don't know how to completely remove it, but I use some EQ'ing and some Noise reduction plug-ins....the white noise is caused by ambient room noise, and noisy Pre-amps. You could remove all of the noise, but it would make the music sound really really bad.
The noise reduction plugins are pretty much filters that remove some high end frequencies. I can listen in my car and not be bothered by it because of all the other outside noise, and even the headphones aren't that bad.
I get so much because the Classical guitar is very quiet in the room I play it in..it's the only room I can use though.
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Thank you! :D
I listened to Breezey 2; it's at the top of the list.
sounds very nice. the separation sounds subtle and natural on my system. I don't feel it is awkwardly panned hard left and right. just the opposite. the guitar sounds very open and real.
I have often copied a guitar track, panned L and R, and delayed on track by a few mili seconds and have achieved cool echo, reverb effects.
I don't have a stereo microphone.
Thanks alot!
I'm learning about these two mics and am really starting to enjoy this frustrating part of music LOL.
I've got 5 tracks left in re-recording my album in stereo, and it just blows what is up out of the water.
I've messed with the EQ some, and here is the final result of what is going to be on the album:
http://www.box.net/shared/z44jdynvu8
http://www.box.net/shared/s6tsdlx2zh
There is some VERY subtle differences in this and the other I think, but at this point I'm not making drastic changes, just very minor changes to get some good results.
And to just compare to what is on the album here are the same two tracks:
http://www.box.net/shared/qnic6mx8oe
http://www.box.net/shared/2kluhdtem2
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