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(@ignar-hillstrom)
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So I've learned that hiphop ain't the favourite genre here. Okay, no problemo. But what about triphop, I never seen nobody say nothing about it. For those unfamiliar with it, triphop is basically hiphop with more experimental music and the rapping replaced with melodic vocals. This is what wiki has to say about it:
Trip hop is a music genre also known as the Bristol sound. The trip hop description was applied to the musical trend in the mid-1990s of downtempo electronic music that grew out of England's hip hop and house scenes. It is often rejected as a term by those artists to whom it is applied. It has also been described as "Europe's alternative of choice in the second half of the '90s", and a fusion "of Hip-Hop and Electronica until neither genre is recognizable." [1] It is thus categorized as a fairly experimental genre, and sometimes with elements of Dance.

So here's my take on it. Hope people like it!

http://www.last.fm/music/Sleutelbos/_/The+Loneliest+Kid+Alive?autostart
The Loneliest Kid Alive

Does anybody see I'm hurt inside
With every step I take
I see the light
Fading out
The loneliest kid alive

 
Posted : 18/11/2008 1:03 pm
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I'm not much any kind of -hop, but that was pretty good. I could imagine listening to it while working. Occasionally, I listen to stuff like Crystal Method while working because you don't have to focus on the music, it just "is."

Bass player for Undercover

 
Posted : 18/11/2008 9:18 pm
 Cat
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Hip Hop brings out a lot of ire in people...me, included. The reason for this was sort of presented to me when I was forced to take those ProTool classes for fourteen months...

There were maybe a dozen students all up...two were well and truly into Hip Hop.

WHY did they sign up??? They needed to know how to reorganize "other peoples' recordings" so they could call it their own.

That ain't hip. You can crusify me over my view on it...but it's as far from music is as me being a farmer because my mom had a corn on her toe!

Cat

"Feel what you play...play what you feel!"

 
Posted : 18/11/2008 10:20 pm
 KR2
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I'll pass on this one.

It's the rock that gives the stream its music . . . and the stream that gives the rock its roll.

 
Posted : 18/11/2008 11:50 pm
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I don't get this one, sorry.

In Space, no one can hear me sing!

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 6:15 am
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I enjoyed listening. like you, I dig exploring other genres. creating a piece helps me appreciate and understand the style.
I agree, this isn't for everyone. it will go over much the same way my club dance piece did. I do have to say that exploring other music does allow for expansion of the player in me.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=644552
http://www.soundclick.com/couleerockinvaders

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 11:50 am
 Nuno
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Hey man! I love your versatility! :lol:

I used to hear some Massive Attack and Bjork tracks. I'm not a specialist, of course.

I like it!

Thanks for sharing.

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 12:45 pm
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Thanks for listening and commenting everyone!

Nuno: Massive Attack is one of the biggest triphop acts and bjork started her solo carreer with the producer of Massive Attack so yeah, the similarities are definitely there. :D

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 1:22 pm
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Hey, cool. 8)
I've brought up trip hop on the site a couple of times (Massive Attack, Portishead), but to no response...
I still listen to those guys and Tosca, K&D and Thievery Corporation all the time.
For the genre, you really nailed the drums. That sort of sparse martial quality they tend to have. The remaining instrumentation is great as well, but the production sounds thin to me. What about a remix with almost everything thicker and more lush?
Fun track!
:)

Don

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 6:19 pm
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Hey,

I really dug that :D

It seemed like.... Electronic Jazz....?
And if it's Jazz, it's 8)

Especialy enjoyed the bass 'solo'....?
Had a real nice Standup Bass quality to it.... very acoustic and vintage feel
in an otherwise electronic soundscape.

As always - Great mix!

I was piqued by the replies that this one got....
It seems that it was judged more on your insistance of lableing it than for anything else.

I wonder if it would have seemed more agreeable without the 'hop' label?
Like - here's some more of 'my' music.... listen and enjoy!

Anyway - wish I had some headphones for this one :wink:

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

"A genuine individual is an outright nuisance in a factory"
-Orson Welles

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 6:26 pm
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I wouldn't stick any kind of "-hop" suffix on this, to be honest - to me it sounds like experimental jazzy-flavoured music. Actually it sounds like Sleutelbos more than anything..... :wink:- if I heard a track like this on the radio, I'd think, "hmm, Arjen's been busy again..."

What I do enjoy about your music is the way you start simple and build, adding more instruments in, layering the texture - kind of like a soundpainting. Listening to one of your tracks is like watching a rough sketch develop into a portrait or landscape - that's the best way I can describe it.

You've developed a sound that's pretty recognisable as your own, and that's no small feat.

:D :D :D

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 7:43 pm
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Thanks folks!

The whole thiphop thing was just because I found it very interesting how music evolves. Most people from the early triphop days hated being named as such for the very reason that people make all kinds of assumptions which dont particularly apply. Historically, IMHO, old-school basic rap is as close to 30s acapella blues as it gets: just a bunch of guys hanging around, telling each other how much their lives suck while making beats with everything that's free: your hands, some wood, whatever. When sampling came along it made it possible for people with basically no equipment but a tapedeck to 'enhance' the beats in a simple way. It's very much comparable to how people copy&paste their myspace profile together from works other people created to express their individuality. It's not overly artistic but it's a form of expression that's free, simple and fairly extensive. But from that point hophop developed in such a way that comparing Howlin' Wolf with 50cents is ridiculous. This formulaic, prefab, one-size-fits-all, bland, overpromoted hiphop is a major pain in the ear, but somehow from within that triphop emerged. Mergin electronic beats, synthesized soundscapes, jazz harmonies and accoustic instruments into a genre that IMHO is very fascinating.
What I do enjoy about your music is the way you start simple and build, adding more instruments in, layering the texture - kind of like a soundpainting. Listening to one of your tracks is like watching a rough sketch develop into a portrait or landscape - that's the best way I can describe it.

Heh, that's exactly how I work. I have a short attention span so I like to add/remove/change things throughout my songs. Sticking with a main theme that's played throughout gives a sense of cohesion, the only important thing is to write a theme that;s harmonically wide enough to allow enough variation and interesting enough to lend itself to repetition. The wider the harmonies the less awkard a synth sounds when it's sound develops outside the existing harmony. So in this song I tacked some 9-chords together and then it's Happy Hour and I just have fun fiddling with synths. :lol:

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 8:58 pm
 Cat
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>people make all kinds of assumptions which dont particularly apply.
>comparing Howlin' Wolf with 50cents is ridiculous.
> overpromoted hiphop is a major pain in the ear,

>>but somehow from within that triphop emerged.

Hey! It took a while, Ignar...but I actually AGREE with ya! :shock:

Cat

"Feel what you play...play what you feel!"

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 9:55 pm
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I like it , Arjen. Though it's a bit unfair to play the "sounds like" game, I couldn't avoid thinking of Thom Yorke.

Constructively, I think a less muddled, more pristine vocal that comes across more pure, delicate and maybe even a bit brittle might enhance the overall texture.

Good work.

-=tension & release=-

 
Posted : 19/11/2008 10:22 pm
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OOOh how about some euro disco metal, kind of like ramstein.

 
Posted : 28/11/2008 2:48 am