I folded a straight flush tonight

That is so sad :(

I feel your pain

John

Now you've seen one Straight Flush, Taso, you're bound to see another....like buses, you wait ages for one, then two or three come along together...Everest wasn't climbed until 1953, now little old ladies pop up to the summit in their lunch hours....

I don't play Poker, but I used to play Bridge (Contract) a lot...

I was once dealt ten hearts (Ace down to the 7, 5 & 2) along with the Ace and King of spades and Ace of clubs....easiest grand slam in history!!!

That was about 25 years ago....I still live in hope of getting another hand like that....

:D :D :D

Vic

Everest wasn't climbed until 1953, now little old ladies pop up to the summit in their lunch hours....
Really RICH old ladies! Climbing Everest costs $60000 for a Gov't permit! :shock: :shock: :shock:

My grandfather taught me to play poker when I was maybe eight. I still play regularly, and I've probably played over 100,000 hands in my life.

I can tell you exactly how many straight flushes I've had: six.

Some years ago, I had straight flushes on consecutive nights - the first night in spades, ten high... the next night in spades again, seven high. The ten high one was also the only one I was ever dealt before a draw.

Some hands you never forget :)

Poker is too alien for me .... :oops:

I used to play quite a bit of poker with friends and I have only seen one straight flush.

I went to the bathroom and when I came back the cards had been dealt, and I had a straight flush without the draw.

I nonchalantly folded, and the laughter confirmed what I already knew.

eep double post

That's a solid fold. never keep crap in the hopes of hitting a river.

I'm a poker player, but I think that hold-em is more or less killing the game. It's impossible to find 7-card stud games anymore -- largely because that actually requires skill and hold-em just requires memorizing some odds tables.

To be good at 7-card, you have to be able to remember all the cards you've seen folded on a hand, as well as being able to count outs and remember the betting sequence for the table for 5 rounds.

I am a fan of either 7 card stud or 5 card draw. Never really got into texas hold em either.

For those of you who play hold 'em, you know that a straight is even rare-er than in other games.

Of course I had to fold the Q 4 suited...I had no choice! But man...100,000 hands, and six straight flushes, and that's not even hold 'em!

I wonder what the odds of getting a straight flush in hold 'em are...

Hold 'em requires skill too, it's not just knowing what hands to play and what hands not to play, it's about giving off tells, bluffing, betting, slow playing, changing your style, etc.

Taso, those things apply to all poker games. The difference between hold-'em and stud are that in stud the good players have developed a skill -- how to remember every card seen, in order, and what bets those cards generated -- that hold-'em players simply don't need to develop. It is a game that requires additional skills.

Hold-'em is primarily a luck game. Take a look at the world series championships since poker became popular, the final two or three tables isn't a "who's who" of poker. Rather, there's one or two well known players a whole bunch of "who the heck are they?"

Now take a look at the 7-card stud world series final tables. Year after year it's the same people in the final 2 or 3 tables. There's some variation, but not nearly the variation you see in hold-'em.

My problem isn't with the fact that hold-'em exists. I'm all for people playing whatever they want to play. But I really dislike that the popularity of hold-'em has caused most casinos to turn over their poker rooms to hold-'em exclusively. It's very very difficult to even find a stud game anymore.

I understand what your saying. There has been much more variance at the Hold 'em championships in the last few years. But, one could easily argue that that is because Hold 'em has become much more popular than 7 card stud, you have many new players, thousands more players actually, and many of them have been watching poker/playing poker for years, and are very experienced.

Take a guy like Greg Raymer. He won in 2004, beating out over 5,000 people. The next year, he again came very close to the final table. Or Sam Farha, in back to back final tables (2003, 2004 I think, not to mention back to back omaha final tables of which he won one) Or guys like Chris Ferguson, who in 3 years got to a final table 7 times. Or take Johnny Chan (however it's spelt) who won back to back WSOP's...

Anyways, I was watching the WPT the other night, and some guy went all in and ended up with a Straight flush...The odds were 1 in 3,500 + ...

The same night I was watching the WSOP 2005, and one of the guys folded A 4 off suit... The flop came up something A A, and on the turn he would have had quad aces. He played terribly the rest of the night :lol:

The variance at the final tables in hold-'em is because there is much more variance in hold-'em than in stud. Stud is much more of a skill game (heck, the cancelled the 5-card studd game because the same guy kept winning it year after year!) with far less variance in outcomes related to skill.

Last couple of years, Doyle's been done on the first day of the WSOP hold-'em. He sits at the final two tables for stud every year. Why? The answer is simple, you can't win at stud just by knowing the odds tables, you have to know a lot more than that.

There was someone who tried an experiement at the WSOP a few years back -- they got someone who knew nothing of poker and told them something along the lines of "simple, you go all in with pocket doubles 10 or higher and fold everything else." That person played for 2 days before getting eliminated.

Try that in 7-card stud and you're gone from the first table.

I don't know. Doyle hasn't won the WSOP hold 'em event since the 70's man. Maybe he's been going out so quickly recently because he can't adapt to the new players, and he didn't change his playing style enough. All these new guys studied him, and they know how he plays. Maybe he wins at the stud tables because he doesn't need to change his style of play, there aren't as many new players.

The fella from the experiment, the pocket 10's or greater guy got eliminated on the 3rd day...Ok, he made it through 2 days, that isn't easy. But he didn't win, or even get to the final table, because Hold 'em isn't that simple. Hold 'em is more about playing the man, not the cards. You gotta know how the man bet pre-flop, on the flop, and on the turn. Not only that, but how he bet in the other hands you've seen him in during the tournament.