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(@red_dwarf)
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I'll definitely have to look for the remastered. Never had the pleasure of hearing it. Mind games is definitely my favorite Lennon tune followed close by instant karma.

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(@yoyo286)
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I was just listening to the white album and was wondering where the hell John got his lyrics from...

LSD

:roll:

He obviously had influences from LSD, but his musical, lyrical genius was something that no LSD taker could have had simply by taking LSD. 8)

Stairway to Freebird!


   
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(@yoyo286)
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And plus, what about the songs before the Beatles discovered LSD?

Stairway to Freebird!


   
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(@blackzerogsh)
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I was just listening to the white album and was wondering where the hell John got his lyrics from...

LSD

:roll:

He obviously had influences from LSD, but his musical, lyrical genius was something that no LSD taker could have had simply by taking LSD. 8)

exactly


   
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(@mattguitar_1567859575)
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Yeah! Drugs had nothing to do with it.

Pre drugs -

She loves you, yeah yeah yeah, she loves you, yeah yeah yeah, she loves you, yeah yeah yeah.....

Post drugs

Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye.
Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess,
Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your Knickers down.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'joob.

See, no change whatsoever!

I am not advocating drug to stimulate creative expression. But its true to say, and I don't see how anyone can argue with this, that some of the most creative genuises in any art sphere have, at some time at least, experimented with drugs.

Dali
Van Gogh
Hendrix
Dylan
Beatles
Stones

You could extend this list infinitely.

Drugs are not a good thing. Period. However we can't deny their effect on popular culture or on music. Without LSD and other stimulants, I wonder where music would be now?

Please let me underline - I do not condone the use of drugs, I am jusr recognising their "contribution" if you like, to culture.

Matt


   
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(@musenfreund)
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Lennon wasn't using acid during the White Album sessions -- as he said, he'd "woken up" and was becoming assertive again in the band. And he was pretty consistently opposed post-Beatles (post Janov primal scream therapy) to drug use considering it a way of anesthetizing pain rather than dealing with it. And remember it's Dylan who turns them on to marijuana. But pot was pretty big in their lives after meeting Dylan and is evident on the 1965/66 albums (especially Help!) and acid on the albums Revolver, Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour.
Lennon wrote one of the finest anti-drug abuse songs ever -- "Cold Turkey".
Very interesting fellow.

Well we all shine on--like the moon and the stars and the sun.
-- John Lennon


   
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(@mattguitar_1567859575)
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That's odd. I read in a biography that post Beatles Lennon pretty much chain smoked Thia sticks. In fact there was a picture in the book of him doing just that.

Strikes me he switched off acid and hard drugs but maintained his intake of hash.

Matt


   
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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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"Cold Turkey" is one of the all-time classic singles...Clapton's guitar riff, John's vocals and lyrics, even the outro....always sounds to me like Lennon really was going cold turkey at the time....the single is far superior to the version on "Live Peace".....

:D :D :D

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)


   
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(@musenfreund)
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Lennon may well have continued to take in THC, but he was pretty clear all along that he couldn't play well when intoxicated and said that he and the Beatles discovered early on that they needed to be sober in the studio.

Vic, Live Peace is the first time the song is ever performed. Lennon did the studio version after that. He and Clapton both overdubbed lead guitar on that one and decided to drop the rhythm in favor of straight lead guitar work. I once had the chance to ask Klaus Voormann about that on a live chatroom feed set up for a German radio interview. In fact, he said they both overdubbed several lead tracks. That's why it's such a searing riff. Having Klaus Voormann answer my question was one of the high moments of my Beatlemaniac life. (I think the moderators liked getting a question in German from Ohio!)

Well we all shine on--like the moon and the stars and the sun.
-- John Lennon


   
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(@rodders)
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Yeah! Drugs had nothing to do with it.

Pre drugs -

She loves you, yeah yeah yeah, she loves you, yeah yeah yeah, she loves you, yeah yeah yeah.....

Post drugs

Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye.
Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess,
Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your Knickers down.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'joob.

See, no change whatsoever!

ROTFLMAO :lol: to that one Matt. Who else could conjure up lyrics like that?

And do we know who the walrus was yet, as it was apparently Paul if you listen to "Glass Onion". Or is that stuff for a different thread?

I like the way this thread has panned out and Musenfreund you are a mine of information on Lennon or is all the Beatles?

Be excellent to each other & party on dudes!
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(@musenfreund)
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The Walrus was Paul. Lennon wrote that lyric because Paul's the one wearing the walrus costume on the cover of Magical Mystery Tour and in the film. He was the only one the costume fit.

I read a lot on the Beatles (in part because of inherent Beatlemaniacal tendencies and in part because I teach a freshman seminar on Beatles as a way of introducing students to the study of culture and art). That's why I know unhealthy amounts of Beatles trivia :oops:

Well we all shine on--like the moon and the stars and the sun.
-- John Lennon


   
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