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(@citizennoir)
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Well, I have a wonderful idea for a song.... Not quite sure that I like these lyrics though.
They were not a SoC.... so, they seem a bit contrived to me :P
Though, the person that I previewed it to, said that it didn't sound like my usual writing.... she liked it though;
saying that it was 'less random' :D

Anyway -

~ rue de Beautreillis 17 ~

here I am forever
at your side
the teardrops.... from my eyes
echo softly
through your.... endless night

You knew this was,
going to,
be.... the end
your reflection
in the water
made.... you grin

into the
hollow idols eyes
we stepped slowly, with no guide
no safety
............or surprise

into the hollow idols eyes
we stepped slowly
into the hollow idols eyes
you look so lonely

here I am forever
at your side
the teardrops.... from my eyes
echo softly
thru your.... endless night

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

"A genuine individual is an outright nuisance in a factory"
-Orson Welles


   
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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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I think someone's been listening to a lot of Doors music lately!

Hmmm - "less random" - or to put it another way, more structured? It reads well, flows nicely, and I could easily imagine this done as a dark, Doors-style, down-tempo number.

:D :D :D

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)


   
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(@citizennoir)
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Hey Vic! :D
Thankx for the reply 8)

The Doors!....?
Okay.... what gave it away? :P

Yes; The couple here is indeed Jim Morrison and Pamela Courson.

Although, I haven't really been listening much to The Doors at all....
I based these lyrics on a screenplay that I was writing many years ago about the final days of Jim Morrison.
I've long been a Doors fanatic, and have always been fascinated with Pamela and her relationship w/JM.

Yes, this is a bit more structured than my writings of late.... interestingly, it still contains what appear to be becoming
trademark ingredients in my lyrical approach:
- The shifting perspective.... this one even goes so far as to have TWO narrators! (giving Three perspectives all together!)
- The non-rhyming rhymes.
- The ever evolving melody.
- And a telling of a story without any story telling references.

As far as that last one goes, I was afraid to get bogged down in a quagmire of details like I did in my last song.
So, since I was basing this on a screenplay, I went the Kerouac route and just visualized the scene and started writing.

It's about just a moment in their life (or death as the case may be - with a forshadowing of Pams own demise years later, also at the age of 27).
I didn't want to write their whole bio here.
And the details are more about JM.... though all but one of the segments are Pam's thoughts/feelings/actions regarding
finding JM in the bathtub.

I also consciously used 'eyes' through out the story.... taking that cue from Hitchcock's direction in Psycho (once again!).
(Another story about a death in a bathtub :twisted: )
The alternate title is *I'll Never Look into Your Eyes Again*

And a bonus.... This is actually a twofer :D
That is, I likened Jim and Pam to two mythological 'lovers':
Jim to Narcissus, and Pam to the Nymph Echo :wink:

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

"A genuine individual is an outright nuisance in a factory"
-Orson Welles


   
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When I run out of two cents or you tell me (politely) to shut up . . .

here I am forever
at your side
the teardrops . . from my eyes
fall endlessly
throughout the (adjective?) night

It's the rock that gives the stream its music . . . and the stream that gives the rock its roll.


   
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(@davidhodge)
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Actually, thanks to my brother (a big Doors fan) I recognized the couple of your lyric. And it's very Doors-like, although in my ears I'm hearing the melancholy, yet light and airy Crystal Ship as a template.

Hope you put this to music. It's haunting and will make a great song.

Peace


   
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(@citizennoir)
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Hey KR! :D
Thankx for your reply 8)

From what I understand, you are quite well invested.... so I don't see you running short of two cents any time soon! :wink:

And no worries.... I love feedback!

As for the reasons I did what I did -
Echo has to be in there for the whole Narcissus/Echo parrellel.
That was one of the screenplay elements.... hard to get it all across in lyrics.

'Endless Night' is one of the liberal sprinklings of JM catch phrases used thru out to make the JM/PC connection without much of a detailed story line.

Endless night to me (in this) signifies JM's death.

The whole 'eye' motif is relevant to 'the eyes are the windows to the soul'.

JM in 'The End' says - 'I'll never look into your eyes again'
To me, meaning that he's not only saying goodbye to his own body (who can't follow in death),
also saying that he was doing some soul searching.... and after his body dies, his soul is set free.

Pam dies something like three years later.
So, she is (at the time of JM's death), not ready to step into the endless night with him.
Her tears are coming from her eyes - the window to her soul.... (it's as close as she can come to offering her soul then and there)
mixing with the bath water and echoing as they fall into it....
Echos that communicate with his soul in the other world as they reverberate thru his endless night :wink:

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

"A genuine individual is an outright nuisance in a factory"
-Orson Welles


   
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Excellent explanation.
I was too lazy to see DH's assignment for the week.
I thought it might have pended on that.

It just sounded to "flowery" to me.

And Vic zoned right in on the Jim Morrison/Pam thing.
I had no idea of the history. (Don't really care for JM to have known.)
Although I was in Miami when he publicly exposed himself.

Clueless in Miami,
KR2

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(@citizennoir)
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David! :D :D :D :D

Wow :mrgreen:

Thank You ever so much for your kind reply (%

The Crystal Ship is one of my all time fav Doors songs.
I did in fact listen to that just a few hours ago.
Which led me to listen to Indian Summer.
I prefer the slower songs myself :)

So, yeah.... I'd love to be able to do something along those lines with this.

I think the key to any Doors song is having a hypnotic bass line to start off with.
So I've been trying to formulate one for this.

Lemme know if you have any ideas/suggestions for the music.
I'm open for it.

Thankx again :D

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

"A genuine individual is an outright nuisance in a factory"
-Orson Welles


   
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Crystal Ship is one of the Doors' songs I worked up as a single acoustic guitar arrangement (albeit a single acoustic guitar running through a bit of a phaser :wink: ) so that I could play it at this annual party my brother has. The first time out it was a total surprise to him (and the entire audience) and became a request for every subsequent party. Fun tune.

I'd be honored to take a stab at the music, but I have to warn you it may be a while before I can seriously devote time to it as I've got (more than) a bit of a backlog of lessons to finish, plus some important gigs coming up. But I'll do what I can. I've already printed out the lyrics so that I can carry them around with me and spin them around in my head whenever I've a moment or two. You're right about needing the bass line to carry the tune. Should be very sparse and have lots of room.

I'll keep you posted on the progress.

Peace


   
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wow that's cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


   
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Congratulations Ken. Nothing could be more affirming than having somebody else (especially somebody with David's ability) saying that they'd like to do your song. I'd be seriously tempted to frame up the post in the manner of a school certificate or diploma and hang it on my wall. :D

I know next to nothing about the Doors, so it took me a couple of reads through (and hearing some of the backstory) to 'get it' but as maddog put it "that's cool!!!!" . Good job. :note1: :note2:

Cheers,

Chris


   
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(@citizennoir)
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I'd be seriously tempted to frame up the post in the manner of a school certificate or diploma and hang it on my wall. :D

Cheers,

Chris

Yes, I've been thinking about it! :D

Although you're not familliar with The Doors, I was thinking that you might appreciate/enjoy the nod to Mythology concerning the Narcissus & Echo bit :wink:

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

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-Orson Welles


   
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(@citizennoir)
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Thankx for the high-five maddog :D

Ken

"The man who has begun to live more seriously within
begins to live more simply without"
-Ernest Hemingway

"A genuine individual is an outright nuisance in a factory"
-Orson Welles


   
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