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Anyone know how to hook up one guitar into 2 or more amps?

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(@athf_rules2)
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I have been wondering this for a very long time and never knew how, and I can never find any resources anywhere. Many rock stars have their guitar plugged into 2 or more amps, and I have no clue how to do this.

Also I was wondering the same thing about multiple distortion pedals.

Thanks

Ben


   
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(@greybeard)
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You can do it quite easily with a good A/B box. They give you the option of out to amp A, amp B or both. You can also often run in the opposite direction - two guitars into one amp.

http://www.musik-service.de/ProduX/Gitarren/Effektgeraete/PedalEffekte/Morley_ABY_AB_Box.htm

http://www.zzounds.com/item--WHRSELECTOR

http://www.loooper.com/ - Click on "A/B/Ys" - also look at the "Looopers" (1, 2, 3, etc)

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(@athf_rules2)
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so this is what I have to get in order to plug my guitar into 2 amps , ok coll I will look around on those sites and some other and try to find a decent price

Thanks, Is this the only way to do this

Ben


   
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It's probably the easiest and safest.

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(@athf_rules2)
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"safest" lol is there dangerous ways todo this lol j/k kidding, but I wish the things werent that high


   
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here's another one: http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?form=prodsearch&q=ab&cat2=3527

They're not that expensive if you think about it, about the price of an effects pedal, and if you have one amp on a clean channel, and one amp saturated, it's kida likke a distortion pedal.. Plus, when you have both the amps together, it makes a nice kinda sound IMO... :)

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(@greybeard)
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I left the boss out, because it only allows you to connect to one amp at a time - either A or B, not A and B, which is what, I believe, ATHF is looking for.

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There are circuit digrams about on the signal splitters, and they fall into two categories...

The first one is unpowered.

The second sort is powered

The third half is just copies of commercial ones - i.e. the previous two.

My suggestion is if your handy with a soldiering eyeron, spend a few bucks and nut one out. They are actually for the larger part, a piece of piss to put together.

I actually down loaded a heap of specs on this very subject... including links.

Which have conveniently evaporated the day when I actually want them..

Try these..... (have a good read through them in detail and sniff out the useful links)

http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000360048631/

http://www.tubefreak.com/switchers.htm

http://www.omegamusic.nl/nobelscompact.html

http://www.geofex.com/schemata.htm (this is good)

http://www.maverick-music.com/scripts/vintage-guitars.asp?idproduct=732
(A little technical - but you learn sumfing)

http://www.epanorama.net/links/audiocircuits.html (this is BRILLIANT)

http://smallbox.zeonhost.com/ (ho hum - but useful)

http://www.geofex.com/ (kind of as before but different branch of tree)

So there you go, that will get you up and running... either to unnerstand them of make them... what ever - you know have the info to have a crack at it.


   
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(@illicit)
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Yeah, make one yourself. It's much cheaper and you'll learn something from.

Soon you'll find yourself modding your pedals and creating your own stompboxes :wink:

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(@athf_rules2)
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some of the links you gave, are a little bit confusing, lol. I dont understand the drawings of the amps insides and curcuits. Its a little werid, lol


   
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(@2shane)
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Hmmmmm Ok, here is a wonderful opportunity to improve yourself.

a) Enroll in a basic electronics course - in a face to face night class or by correspondance.

b) BUY or borrow some technical books on electronics - like simpler high school stuff....

c) Do the above two and get a friend or techincian or useful and loving, kind and SMART old geezer who is qualified in electrical engineering, with a bit of time on his hands, to help you help yourself....

d) and or go join some savvy electronics club..... like a ham radio enthusiasts or something equally full of mostly genius sorts.....

e) Or get a little private tuition, by putting a few notices up on a university employment board..... and then hiring them for 1 or 2 hours per week.

f) And find a really clued on techi at the local electronic parts store.

See there are only 2 sorts of electoronics you need to have an idea about...

The first and least important are truly clever things and people, who do things like design chips etc.

The stuff you need is just people and parts, and to know how to pick out the right parts, to put them together and all being well admiring them working properly...

This second part is the STARTING point.....

My home kit is a couple of small sodering irons 12 & 20W I think, a solder sucker, a solder wick, a small cheap drill press and a multi meter...

You can buy the gear to make your own circuit boards, or you can use substitues for the simple ones...

A kind of simple and cheap digital multi meter is a useful thing too...

See while people may say, "Shane - you are a sex god, genius and positively the worlds best guitarist" - which will all my humility I have to agree, the thing is that you gain experience by doing, and not much by wishful thinking.

So side with the smart people, who can help you, to help yourself.

And the neat thing is that you get smart from experience, having the gear around to make lots of stuff, also comes incredibly handly when it comes to doing all your own repairs to amps, guitar electrics, leads, and tonnes of things....

I picked up 2 cheap amps on ebay, replaced the pots in both and some chips and an uprated set of heat sinks etc. in one and now I have 1 particularly shit hot Park (Marshal) G10 practice amp that used to be a 10W RMS output and now is probably about 18W RMS..... and it's fantastic.

I do all my own upgrades, amp builds, repairs etc..... and all my work is brilliant.....

I don't know if you have it there, but Jayar has a heap of neato little kits, with simple instructions, from beginner to advanced, and they have some neato guitar kits, like pre-amps and all sorts of magical things.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/

And with instructions and cross referencing to lots of sites and lots of reading and all things insightful and some GOOD technical training - you'll be making tonnes of yoru own gear.

So make a start.... do yourself a favour go get a basic electronics technicians certificate..


   
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(@2shane)
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When doing electronics, it's pretty safe, provided that you get a proper amount of tecnical training, as to what is harmless and what is actually dangerous.. and how the two can sometimes combine (mostly through ones own fault or oversight).

It also pays to be drug free (not stoned, hung over etc), eating properly, sleeping well and doing your work in a very well lit area.....

When I worked in the railways, my old friend Mal - an ancient electrician once said, "If one apprentice makes a mistake and dies, they just get me another one".

So get the expertise, get the training, get the QUALIFICATION, (learn the hazards) and go for it........


   
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(@forrok_star)
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There's lots of ways to do this, using stereo effects unit in the effects loop of an amp, A/b/y boxes, Active pickups and using a stereo guitar, dummy-loads, Attenuators, some amps are even setup with a slave out. It comes down to what you and how creative you can be on your quest. Below is how I make " guitarnoise".

Currently I have numerous amps connected together. I start with guitar/ wireless in an equalizer, then into a tube power amp 100watts mono into a dummy-load, two line level outs into a stereo Equalizer, (side A stereo, side B stereo). side A into a side A of a Mesa Boogie 50/50, into an attenuator, speaker out each into a single celestion G12M-70. Side B into side A of a Marshall EL34-50/50, into an attenuator, speaker out each into a single celestion G12M-70.

The two Line outs from the attenuators, into a stereo equalizer, then into the two tube effects processors, (the effects processors have two onboard Eq's and I have eq's in their effects loops), each processor has numerous outs, using stereo outs from each processor into more equalizers, which leaves me with four outs. One side into side B of the Mesa Boogie, into an attenuator, speaker out each into a single celestion G12M-70. One side into side B of the Marshall EL34-50/50 into an attenuator, speaker out each into a single celestion G12M-70. The other two outs are sometimes run into two modified tube guitar amps or sometimes into solid state power amps pushing 4x12 cabinets.

I also use the 1 volt outs from the effects processors into then into delay units into either a single guitar amp or two guitar amps or sometimes a stereo power amp. The ins and outs and different ways of interconnecting units is endless, thats why my setup changes. Mostly because I'm always searching for that something, whether it be tone or just to try something I haven't done.

Joe


   
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(@rockerman)
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try a george lynch tripler, you can route your guitar through three amps
its made by morley and costs about 150 bucks.


   
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