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(@kordus99)
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Hi All,

I have been practicing G major pentatonic in 1st position

0-3
0-2
0-2
0-2
0-3
0-3

Once I have learnt this, do I move to fret 4 to 7 because I have covered the notes for frets 0 to 3 or
move to frets 2 to 5, learn that pattern then frets 3 to 6 etc.

Not sure if I am being clear, I guess I'm asking if I should move up the neck in blocks or a fret at a time

Here is a link to what I'm looking at,

http://www.ChordsAndScales.co.uk/viewer/b7/cs60

Thanks in advance,

Marty.


   
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(@misanthrope)
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Hi, glad you're finding the site useful :)

I've put together a flash tool to better demonstrate the pentatonic boxes, http://www.chordsandscales.co.uk/tools/pentatonic_scale_tool.html

...but basically you learn it as five boxes, each with two notes per string, and they overlap (so you get a head start learning the enxt one each time :)).

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(@kordus99)
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Thats exactly what I wanted. :)

I have actually looked at that before and was clicking on the coloured notes, trying to work out what they meant, but didn't notice the box shapes.

Thanks for that,

Marty.


   
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(@misanthrope)
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No problem. I might make the buttons more button-like, quite a few people don't realise they're clickable...

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 Taso
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Are you sure thats the G major pentatonic?

My limited knowledge says G Major Pentatonic would be like this:

1-3
1-3
0-3
0-3
1-3
1-3

or maybe even this:

1-3
1-3
0-2-3
0-1-3
1-3
1-3

I could easily be mistaken though. *Edit: After looking at that site above, I found out I WAS mistaken, and now I'm questioning what I've thought was correct for a very,very long time.

So the first scale I posted is just the Gm Pent in a differnt posistion than what I'm used to...The second scale I posted is...What? The site said C Dorian, G Phrygian, names I've never used before...

I feel like its the ___ century and I've just been told the world is not flat.

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(@alangreen)
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Everybody's almost on the right track.

G Major pentatonic - G, A, B, D and E (also the E minor pentatonic)

So, top to bottom

0-3
0-3
0-2
0-2
0-2
0-3

The first scale you posted is F, G, Bb, C, D, F, G, Bb, C, D, F, G

Strip out the duplicate notes F, G, Bb, C, D - or Bb-C-D-F-G, which is the Bb Major pentatonic (also G minor pentatonic). It's one of the five box patterns btw

The "maybe this" scale is F, G, Bb, C, D, Eb, F, G, A, Bb, C, D, F, G

Strip out the doops and you get - Bb, C, D, Eb, F, G, A, Bb - looks like Bb Major to me (also G minor)

C Dorian is in the key of Bb - C-D-Eb-F-G-A-Bb-C

G Phrygian is in the key of Eb - G-Ab-Bb-C-D-Eb-F-G

15th century - Columbus sailed in 1492

No, I'm not a complete anorak - I had to write it all down and work it out. I knew the bit about Columbus though.

Best,

A :-)

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(@misanthrope)
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So the first scale I posted is just the Gm Pent in a differnt posistion than what I'm used to...
Different positions are good! All the boxes overlap, and wrap around from the end back to the start... The one you've posted is the 5th one, but it's no less valid than any of the others.
The second scale I posted is...What? The site said C Dorian, G Phrygian, names I've never used before...

I feel like its the ___ century and I've just been told the world is not flat.
The second one is G minor, which is enharmonic to A# major. The modes (dorian, phrygian etc.) are all derived from A# major.

...And who told you the world is not flat? :wink:

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(@alangreen)
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A# = Bb just in case anybody got lost

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 Taso
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thanks for the help fellows. Incredible that I thought I had this mastered for the past year and I was so off.

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