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(@patrick)
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I've always known about the 'regular' minor pentatonic box pattern...the pattern that has 12 'notes' (five notes repeated) and looks a bit like the letters 'ld', and the two smaller boxes just to the top right of it.

But my new guitar book just introduced me to the 'sliding minor pentatonic scale' which contains 16 'notes', and goes up the neck with a few position shifts.

This is the first time I've heard of this one. Where/why would this one be used instead of the 'regular' one, and do I need to memorize this pattern the way I memorized the regular 'ld' box pattern?


   
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The pentatonic scale (just the same as all other scales) can be divided up into 5 "box shapes", one of which is what you are referring to. The boxes fit together to make an unending chain (top of 1st is the same as the b ottom of the 2nd, the top of the second is the bottom of the 3rd, etc, until the top of the 5th is the bottom of the 1st, and so on).

A minor pentatonic

The sliding shapes, I think are simply diagonal slices out of the 5 boxes, that allow you to "slide" up the neck, from one box pattern to the next.

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Hey Greybeard, I've been working on the pentatonic scales and was just about to Google up the minor blues patterns - thanks for that post and for your helpful website! Now I know where the "blue notes" go. :)

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(@patrick)
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Okay, here's the pattern from the book. I can't figure out how it relates to the five patterns on Greybeard's minor pentatonic scale patterns. It's E pentatonic minor, and uses the open low E string as the first note. The / are slides where you slide up to change position.

---------------------------------------10 12---
-----------------------------8 10/12-----------
------------------------7 9---------------------
-----------------5 7/9--------------------------
-------------5 7---------------------------------
---0 3 5/7-------------------------------------

So I guess that Greybeard's patterns contain all the possible notes from the minor pentatonic scale in a given key (in that case A), and that the smaller familiar 'box patterns' that we memorize on the fingerboard are just one of many subsets possible that can be derived from that huge entire pattern. About right?


   
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If you just move that whole thing up 5 frets, you'll get the same pattern for A minor pentatonic and it'll fit what I have on my site as well

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---------------------------------------10 12---
-----------------------------8 10/12-----------
------------------------7 9---------------------
-----------------5 7/9--------------------------
-------------5 7---------------------------------
---0 3 5/7-------------------------------------

I know I am lazy, but does anybody have a tab of that in the key of D?? (And/Or G??)

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Yoyo,

For D you just move down 2 frets, which means leaving the open low E out and starting with the iii (F) on the 1st fret.

For G you simply move 3 frets further up, so you start on the 3rd fret of the low E

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Here's what I can up with.

Key of G
|----------------------------------------------13-15----------|
|------------------------------------11-13/15----------------|
|-----------------------------10-12---------------------------|
|-------------------8-10/12----------------------------------|
|-------------8-10--------------------------------------------|
|-3-6-8/10---------------------------------------------------|

Key of D
|-----------------------------------------------------20-22-------|
|------------------------------------------18-20/22-------------|
|------------------------------------17-19-----------------------|
|------------------------15-17/19-------------------------------|
|-----------------15-17------------------------------------------|
|-10-13-15/17--------------------------------------------------|

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(@yoyo286)
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Thanks alot Forrok! You should put that on your site! :)

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Here's what I can up with.

Key of G
|----------------------------------------------13-15----------|
|------------------------------------11-13/15----------------|
|-----------------------------10-12---------------------------|
|-------------------8-10/12----------------------------------|
|-------------8-10--------------------------------------------|
|-3-6-8/10---------------------------------------------------|

Key of D
|-----------------------------------------------------20-22-------|
|------------------------------------------18-20/22-------------|
|------------------------------------17-19-----------------------|
|------------------------15-17/19-------------------------------|
|-----------------15-17------------------------------------------|
|-10-13-15/17--------------------------------------------------|

Joe

One question though on the Key of G, on the low (higher pitched e) E, it says to go from the 13th fret to the 15 fret, but on the high E (lower pitched one), it says to go from 3 to 6... Is this a typo??

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(@shadychar)
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Here's what I can up with.

Key of G
|----------------------------------------------13-15----------|
|------------------------------------11-13/15----------------|
|-----------------------------10-12---------------------------|
|-------------------8-10/12----------------------------------|
|-------------8-10--------------------------------------------|
|-3-6-8/10---------------------------------------------------|

Key of D
|-----------------------------------------------------20-22-------|
|------------------------------------------18-20/22-------------|
|------------------------------------17-19-----------------------|
|------------------------15-17/19-------------------------------|
|-----------------15-17------------------------------------------|
|-10-13-15/17--------------------------------------------------|

Joe

One question though on the Key of G, on the low (higher pitched e) E, it says to go from the 13th fret to the 15 fret, but on the high E (lower pitched one), it says to go from 3 to 6... Is this a typo??
Those are different notes, not the same position on the scale.


   
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(@yoyo286)
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Oops... For some strange reason I thought that the 10 fret was an octave for a second.... :oops: :oops: :oops:

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