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(@peaveywolfgang5150)
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having trouble with one of my guitars, when i tune the guitar it is perfectly in tune, all of them, it is dead on at 440, but whenever i play a chord or anything like that its always not in tune, i dont understand why?


   
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(@kalle_in_sweden)
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How do you tune the guitar ?
Open strings with an electronic tuner ?
The usual 5/4 fret method ?

Have you checked the intonation on the guitar ?

If not check thise site http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/intonation.htm
or this http://www.icepoint.com/guitar/Setting%20up%20your%20electric%20guitar/

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(@dogbite)
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intonation problem. when you pluck an open string and it is tuned properly (at 440) and then you form a chord up the neck and it is out of tune...classic intonation problem.
tune your open strimg and then fret it at the 12th fret. it should be the same tuning. if it is flat or sharp you need to move the bridge a or saddle.
not hard to change. depending on your guitar.

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(@trguitar)
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Sounds like an intonation problem to me. Is it worse on barre chords on the higher frets? If it's intonation, the higher you go the more out of tune it will be. The good news is intonation can be fixed.

"Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard,
grow big, wear glasses if you need 'em."
-- The Webb Wilder Credo --


   
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(@dl0571)
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Sounds like an intonation problem to me. Is it worse on barre chords on the higher frets? If it's intonation, the higher you go the more out of tune it will be. The good news is intonation can be fixed.

Yes, the good news is it can be fixed. The bad news is that it is a very delicate procedure that takes a LONG time and a lot of patience. I re-intonated my strat over the weekend and it took, all together with continued fine tunings over the last few days, around 3-4 hours. And strats are probably the easiest guitars to intonate.

"How could you possibly be scared of being bad? Once you get past that, it's all beautiful." -Trey Anastasio


   
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(@peaveywolfgang5150)
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so then i guess a set up is in order?


   
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(@doc-gliss)
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Yes, I'd say you guess correctly. You'll probably also find that your guitar plays better after a set-up, even if you like the way it plays now.

If the dude woke up this mornin', he's playin'.


   
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(@trguitar)
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Intonation can be tedious. It is true, you can easily spend a couple of hours messing with it to get it right. I can see why a setup costs what it does. I do all my own setups cause I'm cheap and have way too many guitars.

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(@stengah)
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The really tedious thing about intonation is when you get to the higher frets. I end up getting everything right up to the 12th fret, then reach some kind of compromise on the higher ones. It seems like an analogue tuner is a little eaiser for me to use than the digital ones with l.e.d's .


   
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(@peaveywolfgang5150)
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hmm i think i'll will do that, i dont have the patience to sit there for hours to do that, plus i also want to install new pickups and tuners, and block it.....gonna cost me a pretty penny


   
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