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(@dale_howard)
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im new to live sound, and until i played a little bit around some loud speakers, i never knew what that black stopper thing was i was seeing in their guitars.....

well now i need one, and wondered what the skinny was on getting one.
i seen this one at guitar center, never seen one with holes in it, so i thought i'd better learn a little bit first before i bought one. are they pretty much all the same? i got a martin DX1 with a matrix infinity undersaddle pick up in it, will plugging the sound hole have any effect on the tone that the pickup is feeding on?

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Dean-Markley-The-Suppressor-Acoustic-Soundhole-Cover-369300-i1130952.gc

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(@effectsguru)
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What makes you think that you need one? They will shut down the sound of the guitar... I am not a big fan at all... as far as I know their just supposed to cut down on feedback right? Generally I find thats not an issue if your micing things properly and stand far enough away so that the mic doesn't hear itself.

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(@gabba-gabba-hey)
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I have one of these wooden ones:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Lute-Hole-4--Soundhole-Cover-for-Feedback-Control-369500-i1130958.gc

Works very well. I was getting feedback at not-too-loud stage levels (in a church) from the floor monitors, and with this I get none. I have the medium-strength one; probably could have used the light.

Looks nice too. Mine is light wood color; from a distance people think it's just part of the guitar. :)

YES, they slightly change the acoustic (unplugged) tone of the guitar, no matter how much the manufacturers say they don't. They also reduce the unplugged volume a bit. But if you're plugged in and playing loud, you may not notice much difference. If you're recording yourself with a mic, take it out.

So, if you need one, they're not bad. But if you're not getting feedback at your normal stage volume, there's no reason.


   
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(@dale_howard)
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I have one of these wooden ones:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Lute-Hole-4--Soundhole-Cover-for-Feedback-Control-369500-i1130958.gc

Works very well. I was getting feedback at not-too-loud stage levels (in a church) from the floor monitors, and with this I get none. I have the medium-strength one; probably could have used the light.

Looks nice too. Mine is light wood color; from a distance people think it's just part of the guitar. :)

YES, they slightly change the acoustic (unplugged) tone of the guitar, no matter how much the manufacturers say they don't. They also reduce the unplugged volume a bit. But if you're plugged in and playing loud, you may not notice much difference. If you're recording yourself with a mic, take it out.

So, if you need one, they're not bad. But if you're not getting feedback at your normal stage volume, there's no reason.
yes im getting feedback from floor monitors. also, when i try to tune, it picks up any other noise any other band members make, and i have a time trying to get tuned.

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(@dale_howard)
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What makes you think that you need one? They will shut down the sound of the guitar... I am not a big fan at all... as far as I know their just supposed to cut down on feedback right? Generally I find thats not an issue if your micing things properly and stand far enough away so that the mic doesn't hear itself.
feedback is why i want/need one. dont know how else to not stand in front of floor monitors.

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(@dale_howard)
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only thing is, i might have to get a rubber one, cause im gonna have to notch out part of the rim, so i can still get to my pick up controls, they are mounted between the bracing on the underside of the sound hole.

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(@gabba-gabba-hey)
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only thing is, i might have to get a rubber one, cause im gonna have to notch out part of the rim, so i can still get to my pick up controls, they are mounted between the bracing on the underside of the sound hole.

I don't recall the manufacturer, but one of them I've seen has a sliding panel that might let you access your controls.
Best of luck!


   
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(@hobson)
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I have a Lute Hole soundhole cover. I went with that brand because they look nice and they come in different sizes. I ordered it from this place:

http://www.stringsandbeyond.com/

I couldn't find another brand that would fit my parlour guitar. The only reason that I got one was for feedback when I'm playing with my community chorus. We don't really have a sound person and I have little control over how things are set up during concerts. There is very limited space with about 100 chorus members, a keyboard, drums, and another guitarist. Sometimes a bass guitar too. Feedback is a strange beast and since I got the cover, I haven't needed it. But I'm ready. I did try it out with my practice amp and it seemed to help. Before I got the soundhole cover, I was playing a concert and one of the people in the chorus decided to turn off the amp because of feedback. I was quite surprised when I went back to my guitar (I also sing in the chorus) and had no sound.

Since I've never tried any other kind, I can't tell you how different covers compare. The Lute Hole does come in light, moderate, and heavy feedback control designs. They also have some designs that are modified to allow access to your guitar controls. That's probably going to cost you because you most likely will have to order directly from them and pay list price.

http://www.lutehole.com/products.htm

Renee


   
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(@musenfreund)
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I use one frequently. Sometimes the stage set off is such that feedback happens. The one I use is called a feedback buster and it works just fine. It's made by Planet Waves:

Using one can make the sound guy's job a lot easier.

Well we all shine on--like the moon and the stars and the sun.
-- John Lennon


   
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(@dale_howard)
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good deal, those all look good. i know its gotta help a ton on feedback.

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